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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostSame for electricity and sewage and pretty much all the other services, there's no attempt to understand the scale and costs of the infrastructure needed for such services.
However 150 cruise liners would create a tonnage of 7.5m plus 375,000 passengers and crew, 8000 cargo vessels ( assuming 3000t average) creates 24m tonnage , only 3 times the cruise tonnage , but very little spending power with few passengers if any for shops and tours.
If they change their mind it is a double whammy to the intended cruising from Ireland this year ( Dublin and Cobh ) and the loss of the Drydock and ship repair as already planned. There needs to be a National Plan and direct Control of "on and off" Island Transport and it's infrastructure.Last edited by ancientmariner; 10 February 2019, 18:07.
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There is plenty of room for two terminals, once you accept that one ship will be smaller than the other. Port of cork frequently sees three cruise liners visit at once. One goes to Cobh, One Ringaskiddy and the smaller to the city quays when possible. The Redevelopment of Tivoli Docks as a residential area could see a fourth cruise liner berth within the Port of Cork area of operating.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmitÃ* View PostThere is plenty of room for two terminals, once you accept that one ship will be smaller than the other. Port of cork frequently sees three cruise liners visit at once. One goes to Cobh, One Ringaskiddy and the smaller to the city quays when possible. The Redevelopment of Tivoli Docks as a residential area could see a fourth cruise liner berth within the Port of Cork area of operating.
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostI'm not talking about the entire port, I'm talking about another terminal in Cobh itself down by Lynch's Quay, getting 52 seater buses there is going to be "interesting"
You only have 50m of "quay" by the old town hall/chinese. You could expand that into the channel I suppose, there is still lots of room there, but the 12kn tidal current there could make things interesting when berthing.
The dole office will make a great visitor info centre....For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmitÃ* View PostThere????? Madness!
You only have 50m of "quay" by the old town hall/chinese. You could expand that into the channel I suppose, there is still lots of room there, but the 12kn tidal current there could make things interesting when berthing.
The dole office will make a great visitor info centre....
The Port of Cork recently engaged with Price Waterhouse to seek expressions of interest from the private sector to develop and/or operate a new cruise berth at Lynch’s Quay in Cobh.
“Already we’re encouraged by the level of interest,” Mr Keating said. “We’d hope to see it constructed in the next five to six years. We are planning ahead and it will enhance our ability to cater for the biggest ships in the world.”
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Originally posted by na grohmitÃ* View PostBuild a jetty out from the chinese, make it big enough to accomodate all the buses. I think 30 is normal at a time for the deepwater. With all due respect to Port of Cork, I don't see them getting a foreshore licence.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostWhatever ensues any new pier will need to comply with International recommendations to minimise greenhouses gases. The major requirement is shore power already available throughout Europe and the USA. We need to consider up to 100.000kilowatts. We also need some pump out facilities for poop and grey water, and supply fresh water/ FF water on hydrants. The latter needs connection into ship system when she is on shore power-maybe no pumps runnable.'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Of course if the cruise ship owners decide that Cobh is no longer to their customers liking there is nothing to stop them from bi passing Cobh , and who will be left with the bill for all the infrastructure .Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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Originally posted by Laners View PostOf course if the cruise ship owners decide that Cobh is no longer to their customers liking there is nothing to stop them from bi passing Cobh , and who will be left with the bill for all the infrastructure .
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Originally posted by Laners View PostOf course if the cruise ship owners decide that Cobh is no longer to their customers liking there is nothing to stop them from bi passing Cobh , and who will be left with the bill for all the infrastructure .
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Well lets hope we stay popular with everyone then .On a similar note Rosslare was not popular enough for Irish Ferries to continue their service to France from there , it would seem that Ireland's strategic needs are at the whim of commercial interests .Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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