This sounds completely stupid, but i always assumed that we got the same basic pay... FS
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"He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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Originally posted by morpheus View PostThis sounds completely stupid, but i always assumed that we got the same basic pay... FS
I don't see this as something that'll get fixed seeing as the 10% cut is still there but I'd be interested to hear the reason there is such a difference.
(just a note on my calcs above that they are all on point one of PDF scale and do NOT include MSA)
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Few things:
Make sure your going by line pay only, no allowances
Make sure your going by a 7 day week (if you only did eg Mon-Fri you are paid 5/7th of a PDF week)
There are different pay scales depending on when you joined
I’ll see if I can get some info
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Originally posted by morpheus View PostThis sounds completely stupid, but i always assumed that we got the same basic pay... FS
Since 2011 I think it was, RDF pay has been 10% less - think it was in the LRA
The only rank that is different is a RDF 2/Lt is paid the same as a RDF Lt
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Originally posted by DeV View PostFew things:
Make sure your going by line pay only, no allowances
Make sure your going by a 7 day week (if you only did eg Mon-Fri you are paid 5/7th of a PDF week)
There are different pay scales depending on when you joined
I’ll see if I can get some info
- I've made my calculation based on 14 days FTT. 7 days (or half the final gross amount) matched exactly the weekly pay per military.ie (which is definitely not 90% of current post 2013 joining PDF pay).
- Joined post 2011 and post 2013 for that matter so I'm on newer lower payscales (which seem to include some higher allowances to balance things out by stealth. Most of these only receivable by PDF of course).
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"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by apod View Posthttp://pdforra.ie/news/?p=1286
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DoD admitted not in compliance with WTD
It is still on the Statute books so the DF remains exempt until legisation to amend the Organisation of Working Time is brought forward, passes all stages in the Oireachtas and is signed by the C in C
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So the real question is when can i call the Pay section to give out and claim the difference?"He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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For anyone interested, I've received information confirmation on the pay per the DoD. RDF are indeed on a lower scale separate to the PDF. It is not the current PDF scale (either pre or post 2013) less 90%. It's a separate lower scale less 10% The pay section are just operating with the scale they've been given which is fair enough. The pay rates on military.ie are the current rates being paid to RDF.
It's something to be researched by the representative body now. Will be interested to see where it goes.Last edited by Auldsod; 7 November 2018, 13:58.
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The rates of pay prescribed in paragraph 18 of Defence Force Regulations S.3 in respect
of members of the Army Reserve and paragraph 104 of Defence Force Regulations S.3 in respect of
members of the Naval Service Reserve for personnel of the Permanent Defence Force shall apply to
reservists of corresponding ranks, grades and classes attending at any of the courses of training or
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instruction or other authorised duties provided for in paragraph 40 of these Regulations or engaged
on security duties provided for in paragraph 41.
I cannot find a recent copy of S3 and there is not a recent one laid in the oireachtas libraryLast edited by trellheim; 7 November 2018, 21:28."Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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