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    Cadet Commissioning

    77 cadets commissioned in Dublin Castle ceremony


    The ceremony is being held at Dublin Castle for the first time in the history of the State

    The commissioning ceremony of 77 new cadets is taking place in Dublin.

    67 new Army officers and one Air Corps officer will graduate today, along with nine Maltese officers who trained in Ireland.

    The men and women will take up junior leadership roles in the Defence Forces, while the Maltese Officers will return to the Armed Forces of Malta.

    Following an ecumenical service at Christchurch Cathedral this morning, the cadets marched to Dublin Castle ahead of the official commissioning ceremony, which will take place this afternoon.



    There was an Air Corps fly-past along Dame Street to coincide with the march.

    Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and the Minister with Responsibility for Defence, Paul Kehoe, will attend the ceremony along with the Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces, Vice Admiral Mark Mellett.

    The cadets represent the largest class of new officers being commissioned, while the ceremony is being held at Dublin Castle for the first time in the history of the State.

    They have all completed a 15-month cadetship at the Curragh Camp in Co Kildare.

    The new officers will take an oath of allegiance in which they will swear to be "faithful to Ireland and loyal to the Constitution".

    The Maltese Cadets will receive a certificate of graduation.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019...027457-cadets/







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    In the first pic what is the lowest badge on the CS's arm ?
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    I've a question too please...why the band on the CSgts hat?

    I thought the cadets wore bands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    In the first pic what is the lowest badge on the CS's arm ?
    It's a British qual. Think it might be for completing the British Army Pln Battle Sgts course (might not have the title correct)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider View Post
    I've a question too please...why the band on the CSgts hat?

    I thought the cadets wore bands?
    Bands are standard on all enlisted personnel's peakers now for ceremonial.
    These bands are the reverse colour scheme to the Cadet ones though
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    The RTE reporter mentioned the sword ceremony at the end of the clip and then they showed the newly commissiond officers having a group hug instead .
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    Swords are warlike, that's not what Joe Public wants to think the Army is about...
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    https://www.thejournal.ie/new-cadets...76932-Feb2019/

    Good to see the minister for defence showed up. (non capital letters deliberate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmitÃ* View Post
    https://www.thejournal.ie/new-cadets...76932-Feb2019/

    Good to see the minister for defence showed up. (non capital letters deliberate).
    Sure why else was it moved to Dublin Castle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    Sure why else was it moved to Dublin Castle?
    I like the idea

    They probably wouldn’t all fit in the DFTC gym the Castle would be a lot more comfortable

    Of course they were held on Pearse Square for many years

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    I like the idea

    They probably wouldn’t all fit in the DFTC gym the Castle would be a lot more comfortable

    Of course they were held on Pearse Square for many years
    On a serious note, I couldn't agree more. Dublin Castle is a fantastic location and adds more gravitas to the Commissioning ceremony. The march from Christchurch Cathedral was a fantastic idea too. Hopefully it's something that will be kept up.
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    It's closer to Coppers....

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    Quite a number of hangerovers being nursed this morning I should imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    On a serious note, I couldn't agree more. Dublin Castle is a fantastic location and adds more gravitas to the Commissioning ceremony. The march from Christchurch Cathedral was a fantastic idea too. Hopefully it's something that will be kept up.
    There is normally a service in DFTC, was there one in Christ Church ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    There is normally a service in DFTC, was there one in Christ Church ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    There is normally a service in DFTC, was there one in Christ Church ?
    There was indeed.

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    Last Commissioning had to be held in the DFTC Chapel because the Gym was too small for the numbers.
    The Castle in a much better location size wise and also has the value added of being in the public eye.Especially relevant when you consider the week the DF has had after that muppet Fennelly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmitÃ* View Post
    https://www.thejournal.ie/new-cadets...76932-Feb2019/

    Good to see the minister for defence showed up. (non capital letters deliberate).
    I would go one step further and say that the President should be the Guest of Honour and Present the scrolls.It IS a Presidential Commission after all and it would lay down a symbolic marker that the new Officers swear their oath to the Constitution and the people and NOT the Government which IMHO is embodied by the Minister.
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    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    I would go one step further and say that the President should be the Guest of Honour and Present the scrolls.It IS a Presidential Commission after all and it would lay down a symbolic marker that the new Officers swear their oath to the Constitution and the people and NOT the Government which IMHO is embodied by the Minister.
    There was a DF video released on Monday morning that among some pretty inspiring quotes, showed the President signing (actually signing) the scrolls in his library.

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    I see a young fella in the front row from Clonmel , previously served with 12bn as enlisted went for Cadetship and did well,....off to the 1st Cav in Cork.

    Will be a excellent officer.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Last Commissioning had to be held in the DFTC Chapel because the Gym was too small for the numbers.
    The Castle in a much better location size wise and also has the value added of being in the public eye.Especially relevant when you consider the week the DF has had after that muppet Fennelly.
    Also avoids the whole awkward question of the separation of church and state that comes using the garrison chapel......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    I see a young fella in the front row from Clonmel , previously served with 12bn as enlisted went for Cadetship and did well,....off to the 1st Cav in Cork.

    Will be a excellent officer.
    Be under no illusion, receiving a commission is no metric of success or ability. Just the same as having prior service is no guarantee of being a good officer.

    Unfortunately its pretty commonly accepted that the overall standard of the last 3/4 classes has been dreadful for various reasons. The lack of competition in applicants, the historically large classes and the "touchy feely" nature the cadet school has adopted in recent years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    Be under no illusion, receiving a commission is no metric of success or ability. Just the same as having prior service is no guarantee of being a good officer.

    Unfortunately its pretty commonly accepted that the overall standard of the last 3/4 classes has been dreadful for various reasons. The lack of competition in applicants, the historically large classes and the "touchy feely" nature the cadet school has adopted in recent years.
    This guy will be good! I've been around a long time and know what it takes . He didn't go for a commission for the craic.

    In recent years because of high turnover numbers through natural wastage only those without the ambition and drive and motivation to do the job againts the odds have stayed. I reckon any guy who takes a pay cut to go through the cadet school for 18 months and then go through the physical and mental shit, go back to the end of the food chain has a half arsed chance of becoming a reasonable officer if he is teamed up with the right mentors and digs in and gets on with the job. Its a bit like the Gardai where the 19 years old spotty 500 point leaving cert guy is no longer the ideal candidate. Maturity will win through. A twenty something guy with some decent time behind him is where the DF will find its new leaders.
    Time for another break I think......

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