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  • Originally posted by ropebag View Post
    And how regularly is it practiced?
    AFAIK mainly by units Forming Up to go on deployment. When you look at the earlier Congo Deployments we managed INf Gps. up to 1000 men and later Batts in Cyprus and Lebanon and even a transport unit in Africa with their own trucks. In reality we should have at least 1 Batt with all supports ready to go at any time. it would be appropriate for a country running a UN training School.

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    • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
      AFAIK mainly by units Forming Up to go on deployment. When you look at the earlier Congo Deployments we managed INf Gps. up to 1000 men and later Batts in Cyprus and Lebanon and even a transport unit in Africa with their own trucks. In reality we should have at least 1 Batt with all supports ready to go at any time. it would be appropriate for a country running a UN training School.
      For the Congo we had USAF MATS providing airlift, everything from C-124 Globemaster's to C-130 were made available.
      The last big airlift was Chad, there we had An-124's, chartered. Recently however Russian based An-124's have been banned from transporting western military equipment so only those from the Ukraine might be available.

      The Swedes are part of the NATO airlift Heavy Airlift Wing giving them access to C17's and the Germans have tried to set-up a similar scheme with 13 A-400M but with no takers at present. Like everything this all relies on strategic planning and budgeting. Being part of the latter would enable us to lift a complete infantry battalion in one go. Would even allow to bring along some MOWAG for good measure.

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      • Top Defence job in ireland is up for grabs if anyone is interested.
        Not the Minister for Defence (that has been vacant for some time)
        Not the DFCoS. MM is going nowhere anythime soon, and doing a fine job too.
        Yes, Maurice has decided to devote less of his time to his hobby in the Department of Defence, and commit 100% to having nothing to do with the Defence Forces.
        the Sec Gen Department of Defence is open to applications from suitably qualified candidates. Experience in defence is not essential, but a knowledge of same would be an advantage.
        More details at https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/index.p...ignId=20100100
        The successful candidate will have:

        • a well-developed capacity to lead in a complex environment; a record of achievement in his/her career demonstrating excellent senior management and leadership experience in an organisation of significant complexity and scale;
        • very strong interpersonal skills, including the capacity to manage critical relationships using judgment, vision and leadership;
        • the particular blend of resilience and flexibility needed to manage the challenges of the joint civil military environment.
        • an understanding of, or an ability to quickly acquire an appreciation of delivery within the specific governance arrangements in the defence sector.
        Applicants will also need to demonstrate an appreciation of security and military affairs and a capacity to provide calm assurance in response to the contingencies and crises that form part of the business of defence.
        Just under 200 grand a year. Based in Newbridge, and you may have to work up to 37 hours a week.
        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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        • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
          Top Defence job in ireland is up for grabs if anyone is interested.
          Not the Minister for Defence (that has been vacant for some time)
          Not the DFCoS. MM is going nowhere anythime soon, and doing a fine job too.
          Yes, Maurice has decided to devote less of his time to his hobby in the Department of Defence, and commit 100% to having nothing to do with the Defence Forces.
          the Sec Gen Department of Defence is open to applications from suitably qualified candidates. Experience in defence is not essential, but a knowledge of same would be an advantage.
          More details at https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/index.p...ignId=20100100

          Just under 200 grand a year. Based in Newbridge, and you may have to work up to 37 hours a week.
          Interesting, but the 43 hrs 15 mins per week might be a deal breaker!
          Do you really think they would let any of us with an Irish mile of such a position?

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          • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
            Top Defence job in ireland is up for grabs if anyone is interested.
            Not the Minister for Defence (that has been vacant for some time)
            Not the DFCoS. MM is going nowhere anythime soon, and doing a fine job too.
            Yes, Maurice has decided to devote less of his time to his hobby in the Department of Defence, and commit 100% to having nothing to do with the Defence Forces.
            the Sec Gen Department of Defence is open to applications from suitably qualified candidates. Experience in defence is not essential, but a knowledge of same would be an advantage.
            More details at https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/index.p...ignId=20100100

            Just under 200 grand a year. Based in Newbridge, and you may have to work up to 37 hours a week.
            You really have to just laugh at whoever writes the assessment criteria, remove the minuscule amount of military and defence references and it could be an advertisement for regional manager at Aldi.

            It also creates an illusion that the person who is going to be appointed is somehow qualified for it when we all know that it will either be a career civil servant at Assistant Secretary, or Principal Officer level, who would has bided their time and who'd like to live in Newbridge.

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            • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
              Interesting, but the 43 hrs 15 mins per week might be a deal breaker!
              Do you really think they would let any of us with an Irish mile of such a position?
              Secretaries General have tended to come from CS ranks except during fiscal tornadoes when they came from " outside ". He/She should inter act with the Minister but have NO say in matters the responsibility of Military or Naval Commanders. Making cases for equipments that are required for Batt or Bde strength, or ship defence should not be second guessed by the SG. The current situation is unbalanced, doesn't meet Defence purposes , and is purely based on controlling strengths and expenditure. The need is to look at Defence expenditure as a percentage of GDP and by comparison with other EU countries.

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              • Any coincedence that current Gen Sec post is up for grabs as new government is being formed? Was the writing on the wall?
                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                • What are the four locations of the Department ? (getting too close to 10,000 posts now ) lol
                  "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                  "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                  • Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                    What are the four locations of the Department ? (getting too close to 10,000 posts now ) lol
                    Newbridge, Galway, Kildare Street - Agriculture House (Office of Emergency Planning), Roscrea (Civil Defence)

                    It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
                    It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
                    It was a new age...It was the end of history.
                    It was the year everything changed.

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                    • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                      For the Congo we had USAF MATS providing airlift, everything from C-124 Globemaster's to C-130 were made available.
                      The last big airlift was Chad, there we had An-124's, chartered. Recently however Russian based An-124's have been banned from transporting western military equipment so only those from the Ukraine might be available.

                      The Swedes are part of the NATO airlift Heavy Airlift Wing giving them access to C17's and the Germans have tried to set-up a similar scheme with 13 A-400M but with no takers at present. Like everything this all relies on strategic planning and budgeting. Being part of the latter would enable us to lift a complete infantry battalion in one go. Would even allow to bring along some MOWAG for good measure.

                      MRV (Ship version!) plus a medium airllift capability would be a gamechanger for us

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                      • Would do wonders for morale knowing those overseas had something with a roundel ready to bring them home instead of waiting for the bargain charter to get their when it suits them.
                        We had the dry run for this already. During the Icelandic volcano people were stranded overseas because of no flights. An MRV could have brought back troops and equipment, securely and directly if required.
                        The escalation of things in Libya saw us, and everyone else rushing to get our people out safely. Civvy aircraft were not covered to fly into a warzone. We eventually sent something, but if I recall correctly the brits took some of our people out, dropping them off in Malta and Cyprus.
                        The state should, in an emergency be able to transport its citizens back from anywhere in the world, if scheduled airlines or ground transport is unable to do so.
                        We pay enough tax for this.
                        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                        • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                          Any coincedence that current Gen Sec post is up for grabs as new government is being formed? Was the writing on the wall?
                          The writing may have been on the wall but I doubt it is linked to the formation of a new government. Just look at the long list of failings mainly linked to the retention crisis. Ships tied u due to lack of crew, lack of personnel to fly the HEMS helicopter, everything around pay rates.................. There has also been different messages coming from the civil side and the military; remember what the story from the dept was why the NS had tied up two ships?

                          Interesting is whom can apply; anyone from the EEA (EU+Norway & co), but now that the UK has left the EU on UK citizen with dual Irish nationality can apply.

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                          • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                            Any coincedence that current Gen Sec post is up for grabs as new government is being formed? Was the writing on the wall?
                            Well the document says it’s a fixed term 7 year contract with no chance of permanency

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                            • Originally posted by A/TEL View Post
                              MRV (Ship version!) plus a medium airllift capability would be a gamechanger for us
                              In today's Irish Examiner we have a saga about the recovery of two Irish Army officers from DRC. A consideration to recover them by Lear Jet is deemed a non-starter because of range (6/7 Stops ). They are looking around for a contractor with a 1/2 stop capability. The matter is urgent because the local populace are blaming foreigners for bringing in Covid. Our two aren't housed in the UN compound but are in civvie accommodation in GOMA. Most other UN personnel have been removed by their Governments earlier when the unrest over Covid surfaced. In the East African area the UN have assets with connections to Tanzania, Kenya, Somalia, Ethiopia, maybe they should reposition to say Kenya ( the Brits have a training camp there ) or Tanzania . Then Fly home by Regular airline or even the CASA CN235 via Amman, Cyprus, Spain, Home. An earlier security assessment would have been wise and in the scheme of things the UN are responsible.

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                              • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                                In today's Irish Examiner we have a saga about the recovery of two Irish Army officers from DRC. A consideration to recover them by Lear Jet is deemed a non-starter because of range (6/7 Stops ). They are looking around for a contractor with a 1/2 stop capability. The matter is urgent because the local populace are blaming foreigners for bringing in Covid. Our two aren't housed in the UN compound but are in civvie accommodation in GOMA. Most other UN personnel have been removed by their Governments earlier when the unrest over Covid surfaced. In the East African area the UN have assets with connections to Tanzania, Kenya, Somalia, Ethiopia, maybe they should reposition to say Kenya ( the Brits have a training camp there ) or Tanzania . Then Fly home by Regular airline or even the CASA CN235 via Amman, Cyprus, Spain, Home. An earlier security assessment would have been wise and in the scheme of things the UN are responsible.
                                I would doubt some of the figures; the distance to Goma is almost 7000km, the range of the L35 with 4 passengers is 5200km (no reserves). So a first hop to say Palermo and refuel and second hop to Goma would be possible. So 3-4 stops would be more likely, but I think there is another problem and that is the size of the aircraft. If things are getting ugly then there will need to be two security details, one to escort the 2 officers from where they are most likely keeping there heads down and one to secure the aircraft at the airport. A plane with more whites turning up might not be welcomed.

                                Getting a contractor to do the trip is a non-starter, no-one in there right mind would want to take it on and if there is a civilian that does then that is one I would not want to fly with. We will need to go yet again begging to our EU partners to see who can help.

                                BTW; as Goma is one of the biggest refugee camps in Africa are there any Irish there working for NGO who need also to be lifted out?

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