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  • Originally posted by Laners View Post
    Something along the lines of an Irish version of " Yes Minister" .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYfiRyPi3o

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    • Originally posted by Laners View Post
      Something along the lines of an Irish version of " Yes Minister" .
      Which is horrifying as Yes Minister was the 1980's and by what na grohmiti wrote above makes fact stranger than fiction/comedy.

      At least with Yes Minister Sir Humphrey was keen to buy the best. A cruise missile that Harrods would sell you (which was a joke in a joke noting the owner of Harrods previous occupation).
      Last edited by Anzac; 24 April 2020, 10:24.

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      • Originally posted by Anzac View Post
        As I suspected that is more than enough to make the required behaviour modifications to the DoD.

        Maybe the Mods could start a thread that also addresses the organisational improvements to the DoD as it is seemingly is a significant road block to change and development within the DF - which and they should be reminded is the only reason they need to exist and have jobs.
        Interesting to see an outline of uses of Mil. Pers. equipments and establishments, to assist in actions against the Coronavirus pandemic. I note the Naval involvement has been reduced to 2 ships and the Aer Corps to 2 pilots and a helicopter on standby. The matters are outlined in documents published on facebook. I note that moribund establishments and camps have been resurrected as stand down and isolation units. It is time that who does what is properly outlined and that Defence is funded as part of the bulwark against natural and other disasters.

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        • I thought that was the whole point of the Civil Defence organisation. Are they contributing to the fight against the virus? You dont see any mention of them on the news or FB or any of the usual outlets.

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          • There was mention of them collecting test samples in the early days of this.

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            • From the Civil Defence Twitter account

              What is says is.

              Overall 132 volunteers were involved in 55 taskings yesterday and provided 565 volunteer hours to their communities.

              Since 17 March 2020, a daily average of 46 Civil Defence volunteers have provided a daily average of 198 volunteer hours, totalling 7,532 volunteer hours and 908 taskings in support of the Principal Response Agencies. These volunteers have been supported bu 74 four wheel drive jeeps, 21 ambulances, 17 minibuses, 16 vans, 2 operational support vehicles, 1 welfare trailer and 1 truck.

              Tasks include:
              • Distributing food parcels to vulnerable persons
              • Assisting An Garda Siochana in advising persons on social distancing
              • Setting up isolation centers and transporting food and laundry for homeless servivces.
              • Delivering COVID-19 signage to area offices
              • Collecting medication from Pharmacist and delivery to isolated households
              • Collecting letters and parcels for posting
              • Sourcing and delivering emergency pension collection forms
              • Transporting persons to collect pensions
              • Trained information manager supporting inter agency management office
              • Delivering homework packs for students with special requirements
              • COVID-19 information leaflet drops to Garda Stations, Post Offices and Supermarkets
              • Assisting credit union in relation to elderly and vulnerable members
              • Collecting pensions and top up energy account for isolated household
              • Collecting foodstuffs from suppliers and bakers for food hub
              • Collection of refuse for isolated vulnerable household
              • Distributing reading material to community groups and nursing homes
              • Delivering food to front line workers
              • Registering isolated person on SVP helpline
              Last edited by Bravo20; 24 April 2020, 17:13.

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              • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                Interesting to see an outline of uses of Mil. Pers. equipments and establishments, to assist in actions against the Coronavirus pandemic. I note the Naval involvement has been reduced to 2 ships and the Aer Corps to 2 pilots and a helicopter on standby. The matters are outlined in documents published on facebook. I note that moribund establishments and camps have been resurrected as stand down and isolation units. It is time that who does what is properly outlined and that Defence is funded as part of the bulwark against natural and other disasters.
                Daily updates and other info for DF

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                • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                  I thought that was the whole point of the Civil Defence organisation. Are they contributing to the fight against the virus? You dont see any mention of them on the news or FB or any of the usual outlets.
                  Probably because they are focused on doing rather than the photo op, no need for a new general just get on and do it |||

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                  • Originally posted by client View Post
                    Probably because they are focused on doing rather than the photo op, no need for a new general just get on and do it |||
                    Talking about generals and particularly Brigadiers how does command of a Brigade work . Most Brigades have a BHQ and is composed of at least 4 Batt, Signals unit, Logistics unit, artillery unit, medical unit,engineer units, armoured support, and air support. Given that Brigades don't own the major support units which should be commanded at Divisional level. How those that work for us or who owns the Supports?

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                    • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                      Talking about generals and particularly Brigadiers how does command of a Brigade work . Most Brigades have a BHQ and is composed of at least 4 Batt, Signals unit, Logistics unit, artillery unit, medical unit,engineer units, armoured support, and air support. Given that Brigades don't own the major support units which should be commanded at Divisional level. How those that work for us or who owns the Supports?
                      The combat, combat support and combat service support units are indigenous to the formation. They are under the command of the GOC.

                      The only exception is the Medical Detachment. They belong to the CMU and are under Opcom to the GOC.

                      The DFTC is different but the same.

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                      • Originally posted by Fantasia View Post
                        The combat, combat support and combat service support units are indigenous to the formation. They are under the command of the GOC.

                        The only exception is the Medical Detachment. They belong to the CMU and are under Opcom to the GOC.

                        The DFTC is different but the same.
                        Got it. A bit like an inserted Brigade , bringing everything with it . Joining up with the other BDE or just being adjacent must require co-ord function. Thanks for info.

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                        • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                          Talking about generals and particularly Brigadiers how does command of a Brigade work . Most Brigades have a BHQ and is composed of at least 4 Batt, Signals unit, Logistics unit, artillery unit, medical unit,engineer units, armoured support, and air support. Given that Brigades don't own the major support units which should be commanded at Divisional level. How those that work for us or who owns the Supports?
                          That is the case in some militaries such as the U.K.

                          As Fantastia says it isn’t here

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                          • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                            That is the case in some militaries such as the U.K.

                            As Fantastia says it isn’t here
                            I have wondered about the cost of putting a full Bde on the ground annually to trial the amount of ground needed to defend a particular type of terrain. It could have a front as narrow as 4km against a definite en axis or up to 30km initially for an oberservational front. I've only ever done TWET's and think such an exercise with mechanised/motorised units would highlight the boxes that need ticking and filling. It would also steer future budget targets for Air Defence, Armour, artillery,field engineering, and field medical. We all know the need, let us see can we do it.

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                            • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                              I have wondered about the cost of putting a full Bde on the ground annually to trial the amount of ground needed to defend a particular type of terrain. It could have a front as narrow as 4km against a definite en axis or up to 30km initially for an oberservational front. I've only ever done TWET's and think such an exercise with mechanised/motorised units would highlight the boxes that need ticking and filling. It would also steer future budget targets for Air Defence, Armour, artillery,field engineering, and field medical. We all know the need, let us see can we do it.
                              The first problem would be that we would find we do not have enough transport to bring a full Bde to a single training area. Also for a effective exercise there would need to be a Blue/Red teaming or would it just be a positioning exercise?

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                              • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                                The first problem would be that we would find we do not have enough transport to bring a full Bde to a single training area. Also for a effective exercise there would need to be a Blue/Red teaming or would it just be a positioning exercise?
                                Initially positioning and to establish if things join up and communicate up and down. Invite EU umpiring with a wash-up report and marks out of 10. Useful timing data would be gleaned and the AR would get an airing.

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