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  • #91
    Originally posted by DeV View Post
    No there isn’t. There is a Military History Department.

    NUI Maynooth doesn’t offer Medicine as an option.
    YES there is!!! but it is run by the Irish College of General Practitioners but now not certain of faculty location or course incidence. probably depends on applications and space.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
      The Irish College of General Practitioners does have a Faculty of Military Medicine.https://www.icgp.ie/go/become_a_gp/f...itary_medicine
      Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
      YES there is!!! but it is run by the Irish College of General Practitioners but now not certain of faculty location or course incidence. probably depends on applications and space.
      The Faculty of Mil Medicine has zero connection with Maynooth.

      The 5 year course is I think ending the 3 or 4 th year of admissions. They are training in Mil Col, Med Sch, Mil Medical Facilities, GP surgeries and hospitals around the country/overseas and Tallaght GP training scheme

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      • #93
        Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
        Well according to the ex Minister O'Dee, it is only 3 acres.
        https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates...11-26/29/#s213
        He was wrong

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        • #94
          Originally posted by DeV View Post
          He was wrong
          Who would believe that, a Minister giving false figures in the written reply in the Dail, maybe the number 8 on the typewriter was worn or someone could not read his hand writing.

          I have roughly measured the area and I get around the 8 acres mentioned.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by trellheim View Post
            Flamingo what do you do for induction medical testing for regular and reserve candidates do they all get shipped to and from Birmingham or what
            They do their medicals at the recruiting centre; they are staffed by Doctors and Nurses who put them through everything medical...ECGs, hearing etc.

            The potential recruits bring their medical notes from their GPs with them and the Dr talks them through their medical history.

            On arrival at their Phase 1 training establishment they have another medical, less in-depth than the first, to ensure they are physically robust enough to start training.
            'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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            • #96
              Originally posted by DeV View Post
              When some require ECG, chest X-rays, audiogram and bloods.

              Primary care centre?
              All (except CXR) perfectly viable from a decent Occ Health dept. Wouldn’t even need a Dr for any of them (again, with the exception of CXR, which could be done in 10 minutes (plus waiting time) at any X-Ray Out Patients).
              'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
              'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
              Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
              He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
              http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                All (except CXR) perfectly viable from a decent Occ Health dept. Wouldn’t even need a Dr for any of them (again, with the exception of CXR, which could be done in 10 minutes (plus waiting time) at any X-Ray Out Patients).
                Ah but you used the word decent

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                  The site of St Bricin's Military Hospital is not that large and the amount it would bring-in would not cover the price of a PC-12. And any developer would have the issue of what to do with such a building.
                  St Bricin’s site would fetch several million on the open market if it was sold, money that the cash strapped Defence Forces would badly need to build a new medical facility and also the printing press will need to find a new home.
                  If you look at what was done with Clancy then it wouldn't be much of a problem for any developer.
                  The officer's mess should stay in the States hands due to its historic links to 1798 and Wolfe Tone. Possibly turn it into a museum.

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                  • #99
                    Medical services at St Bricin’s has been run down to the bare minimum now. All that's really left is whats needed for annual, overseas and recruit medicals, sick parades, physio, psychiatrist, overseas and recruit dental, and the pharmacy.
                    For anything else its a trip to the nearest A&E or into the HSE waiting list. Unless you're an officer, who gets private healthcare.
                    Most barracks also have the facilities for sick parades and annual medicals.

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                    • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                      Medical services at St Bricin’s has been run down to the bare minimum now. All that's really left is whats needed for annual, overseas and recruit medicals, sick parades, physio, psychiatrist, overseas and recruit dental, and the pharmacy.
                      For anything else its a trip to the nearest A&E or into the HSE waiting list. Unless you're an officer, who gets private healthcare.
                      Most barracks also have the facilities for sick parades and annual medicals.
                      So it is really an Occ Health service with a few extras like psychiatrists (who only need a few chairs and a sofa in an office), physio (useful to keep in-house) and pharmacy (which could be contracted out).

                      Are there any in-patient services offered?
                      'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                      'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                      Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                      He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                      http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                      • Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                        So it is really an Occ Health service with a few extras like psychiatrists (who only need a few chairs and a sofa in an office), physio (useful to keep in-house) and pharmacy (which could be contracted out).

                        Are there any in-patient services offered?
                        There is inpatient wards and theatres but would cost millions to upgrade to something passable.

                        Not to mention it isn’t staffed for it

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                        • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                          The Faculty of Mil Medicine has zero connection with Maynooth.

                          The 5 year course is I think ending the 3 or 4 th year of admissions. They are training in Mil Col, Med Sch, Mil Medical Facilities, GP surgeries and hospitals around the country/overseas and Tallaght GP training scheme
                          The assigned University seems to be Trinity College.

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                          • Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                            So it is really an Occ Health service with a few extras like psychiatrists (who only need a few chairs and a sofa in an office), physio (useful to keep in-house) and pharmacy (which could be contracted out).

                            Are there any in-patient services offered?
                            The in house pharmacy saves the Army a lot of money, buying medication and inoculations in bulk, that's why it's still running.

                            I can't remember the last time I heard of a patient staying there, over a decade at least, unless you count all the 'homeless'.

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                            • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                              The in house pharmacy saves the Army a lot of money, buying medication and inoculations in bulk, that's why it's still running.

                              I can't remember the last time I heard of a patient staying there, over a decade at least, unless you count all the 'homeless'.
                              There can be a lot to be said for pharmacies that offer "generic" drugs, if the HSE was prepared to piss off the pharmaceutical companies and only prescribe generic drugs it would save a fortune - but that's an argument for a different thread.

                              It sounds like keeping a pharmacy capability in-house could be worthwhile. But again, although the army needs medical services, it sounds like St Bricans has served it's purpose and it's time to look at what is required by the army as a whole in 2020, not what was there in 1970. Same as the SAR really!
                              'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                              'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                              Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                              He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                              http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                              • My current pharmacy only gives me the "brand name" drugs, instead of the generic.
                                Big savings only made on certain generic, once patent has expired, anyone can make the same thing. Drugs where the R&D is well covered. I doubt DF patients would be in that league, thankfully.
                                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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