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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    So it is really an Occ Health service with a few extras like psychiatrists (who only need a few chairs and a sofa in an office), physio (useful to keep in-house) and pharmacy (which could be contracted out).

    Are there any in-patient services offered?
    There is inpatient wards and theatres but would cost millions to upgrade to something passable.

    Not to mention it isn’t staffed for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    The Faculty of Mil Medicine has zero connection with Maynooth.

    The 5 year course is I think ending the 3 or 4 th year of admissions. They are training in Mil Col, Med Sch, Mil Medical Facilities, GP surgeries and hospitals around the country/overseas and Tallaght GP training scheme
    The assigned University seems to be Trinity College.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    So it is really an Occ Health service with a few extras like psychiatrists (who only need a few chairs and a sofa in an office), physio (useful to keep in-house) and pharmacy (which could be contracted out).

    Are there any in-patient services offered?
    The in house pharmacy saves the Army a lot of money, buying medication and inoculations in bulk, that's why it's still running.

    I can't remember the last time I heard of a patient staying there, over a decade at least, unless you count all the 'homeless'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    The in house pharmacy saves the Army a lot of money, buying medication and inoculations in bulk, that's why it's still running.

    I can't remember the last time I heard of a patient staying there, over a decade at least, unless you count all the 'homeless'.
    There can be a lot to be said for pharmacies that offer "generic" drugs, if the HSE was prepared to piss off the pharmaceutical companies and only prescribe generic drugs it would save a fortune - but that's an argument for a different thread.

    It sounds like keeping a pharmacy capability in-house could be worthwhile. But again, although the army needs medical services, it sounds like St Bricans has served it's purpose and it's time to look at what is required by the army as a whole in 2020, not what was there in 1970. Same as the SAR really!
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    My current pharmacy only gives me the "brand name" drugs, instead of the generic.
    Big savings only made on certain generic, once patent has expired, anyone can make the same thing. Drugs where the R&D is well covered. I doubt DF patients would be in that league, thankfully.
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    Wish I could find the link to the PA Consulting report

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    check under documents laid on oireachtas
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    check under documents laid on oireachtas
    Not there unfortunately

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    RDFRA have now stuck an article up about Rockbrae House.

    Be interesting to see a list of all FCA locations down the years in Wicklow on both sides of the mountains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    RDFRA have now stuck an article up about Rockbrae House.

    Be interesting to see a list of all FCA locations down the years in Wicklow on both sides of the mountains.
    1946-1954 there was North Wicklow Bn and South Wicklow Bn.

    In 1959 that became 21 Inf Bn. And from 2005, C Coy 62 Res Inf Bn.

    There was Rockbrae House and Wicklow which were owned/leased.
    There was centres in Arklow and Rathdrum (which were rented for the few hours a week). In 2005 it was the same story for Tinahely (taken over from 10 Inf Bn in 2005)

    There used to be a centre in Newtownmountkennedy (not sure if owned/leased/rented).

    Strangely never heard anything at all about anywhere west of Bray/Newtown/Rathdrum until Tinahely came on board in 2005.

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    Carnew and Shillelagh as well and what about the centres in West wicklow
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Carnew and Shillelagh as well and what about the centres in West wicklow
    The were on the map for the 2005 reorg but there was never centres there (not sure about before that)


    There was the North and South Wicklow Battalions in 1946. Never read anything about an units in West Wicklow
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    yep there was a 10th bn subunit in Carnew ? Sorry thats more south I know. See http://www.igp-web.com/Carlow/Carlow_FCA.htm


    jeez we've lost a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    The were on the map for the 2005 reorg but there was never centres there (not sure about before that)


    There was the North and South Wicklow Battalions in 1946. Never read anything about an units in West Wicklow
    Nearest units, back in the day, for anyone in West Wicklow would have been 6 FAR in the Curragh or 10 Bn in Carlow !
    Either that, or commute to Dublin to 2 Bde
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    10 bn as I mention above had a sub-unit in Carnew.

    One of the problems with the re-org ( the 2005 one) was that pulling back from the rural subs made it almost impossible for anyone to be recruited and parade outside the major centres and it broke a lot of the regional links . Now we've debated this endlessly as to the usefulness but its worth pointing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    10 bn as I mention above had a sub-unit in Carnew.

    One of the problems with the re-org ( the 2005 one) was that pulling back from the rural subs made it almost impossible for anyone to be recruited and parade outside the major centres and it broke a lot of the regional links . Now we've debated this endlessly as to the usefulness but its worth pointing out.
    Ahh but Carnew wouldn't be classed as West Wicklow. Almost in Wexford at that stage!
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    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates...1-17/41/#pq_41

    So she doesn’t think we should get any of that cash then

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates...1-17/41/#pq_41

    So she doesn’t think we should get any of that cash then
    But won't you think of the children?
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    The Army building behind the Garda station in Portlaoise is being given to the Gardai and a new location for the Army will be built at the Prison Service College.

    https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/...rda-chief.html

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    This is a list of the properties that the DoD have sold since 2017.
    The two houses in the Curragh worth over €150,000 each were "sold" to Kildare County Council for just €1 each. Again, business as usual at the useless DoD.

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