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  • Ireland has lowest government expenditure on defence to GDP in EU: Eurostat

    Eurostat, the EU equivalent of the CSO, has released figures for Government Spending on Defence across the EU.

    Irelands has 0.3% expenditure to GDP, the lowest in the EU by far. The next nearest low spender is Malta, with 0.5%. Latvia is the highest at 2.1%.

    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/pr...%2Feurostat%2F


  • #2
    Less than MALTA!
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
      Less than MALTA!
      they train their officer here so they can see how not to run a defence force
      Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by madmark View Post
        they train their officer here so they can see how not to run a defence force
        That’s why their spend is higher - it’s the cost of the rent they have to pay in Kildare...
        'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
        'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
        Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
        He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
        http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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        • #5
          Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
          Less than MALTA!
          That's it then , no more donating ships to them , they can afford their own.
          Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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          • #6
            This is nothing new, there will be the excuse that GDP gives a false impression, but even with the percentage of GNI it is not any better. For years the trend has been one way at a constant rate and that is down. If we go back to the early 90's to see the 1.2% value. Remember those days when we were a poor nation!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
              This is nothing new, there will be the excuse that GDP gives a false impression, but even with the percentage of GNI it is not any better. For years the trend has been one way at a constant rate and that is down. If we go back to the early 90's to see the 1.2% value. Remember those days when we were a poor nation!
              And managed to have what 16K in service...

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              • #8
                Ireland doles out how many tens of millions of euro per annum to Uganda (to give one example), and much of it finds its way into the bank accounts of its government ministers.

                Meanwhile, the Ugandan Air Force is taking delivery of state-of-the-art Su 30s from Russia.

                You're on about Irish air defence, you could probably pay for a respectable enough little air defence system with all the money pissed away each year on 'aid'.

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                • #9
                  If only we could include the gifting of our old OPVs to certain developing countries as part of our overseas aid budget, and the actual money could go back into defence.
                  For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                  • #10
                    That'd be a good idea and a good start, but the amount you'd recoup from it alone wouldn't be much.

                    What they should do is withdraw Irish taxpayer aid to any and all countries where it has been misappropriated, and/or countries which claim to be unable to provide basic necessities for their people, while at the same time splashing out large sums on highly advanced warplanes.

                    I don't know how much funding that would free up for the DoD, but add it up over the space of, say, a decade, and you'd have to imagine it'd be a fair whack. Hundreds of millions, probably.
                    Certainly enough to significantly bolster our ability to police our territorial waters and airspace.
                    Last edited by FCA Trooper; 10 March 2020, 15:09.

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                    • #11
                      Better on our pocket than theirs, unless the sum recovered ends up in the bottomless pit that is the health sector.
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                        Better on our pocket than theirs, unless the sum recovered ends up in the bottomless pit that is the health sector.
                        It will, forget any chance of increased spending, that "€11 billion" the parties were talking about is gone, let alone the SF €20+ billion

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                          It will, forget any chance of increased spending, that "€11 billion" the parties were talking about is gone, let alone the SF €20+ billion
                          The US has taken a strategic look at Ireland, and have pointed out that many hundreds of US owned companies have interests and data centres here. They want to know what are we doing at a cyber and cybernetic level to protect these assets. They imply if we don't meet a level of competent security there will be consequences.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                            The US has taken a strategic look at Ireland, and have pointed out that many hundreds of US owned companies have interests and data centres here. They want to know what are we doing at a cyber and cybernetic level to protect these assets. They imply if we don't meet a level of competent security there will be consequences.
                            That's Trump being Trump, and don't change my point. We have a global recession without question and a health service that's going to swallow every cent it can for at least the next year. Forget extra spending in the DF it's not there and won't be there.

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                            • #15
                              I disagree. The current situation permits spending increases without much scrutiny in government or with the public.
                              The state just found €3bn to deal with the crisis, accepting that our national deficit will suffer. However we are rapidly heading towards a worldwide recession, and the pandemic has the potential to kill many, including politicians, which could completely change government priorities.
                              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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