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  • #16
    For years we had 2 factories producing fertilizers, one in Cork, one in Arklow.
    Every evening a train full of the above made the journey from one to the other. Locally we called that train the "time bomb".
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    • #17
      The crater

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      • #18
        Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
        This is a chance for the EU to take a leading role. Already through UNIFIL, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Austria, Finland and ourselves have resources in-country. We have invested militarily now we need to do it on the humanitarian front. We can also forget the "Great Brain Leader" as he thinks it was a bomb and once he starts off down the wrong track it is impossible to turn him around. Europe need not and should not wait to show leadership. Even Israel has offer help!
        Trump said his 'Generals who are fantastic' thought it was a bomb , so when he is challenged on the subject of it being a bomb he can say it was his ' not so fantastic Generals' who said it, thus passing the buck , the Generals can't openly defend themselves and will be blamed by Trumps' fan base as trying to undermine the President and make him look bad ,and that it is all a conspiracy by the Democrats .
        Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Laners View Post
          Trump said his 'Generals who are fantastic' thought it was a bomb , so when he is challenged on the subject of it being a bomb he can say it was his ' not so fantastic Generals' who said it, thus passing the buck , the Generals can't openly defend themselves and will be blamed by Trumps' fan base as trying to undermine the President and make him look bad ,and that it is all a conspiracy by the Democrats .
          For "Generals"; read TV pundit.
          There were a few on cable news who were claiming based upon their experience it was not Ammo Nitrate!
          Their whole argument was that the mushroom cloud should have been yellow. They seem to not know that the red colour was debris and the red dust can be seen in many of today's photos.

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          • #20
            IMHO the people of Lebanon have good reason to be angry with their politicians.
            This material was impounded in 2013. It was not some importer who was storing the ammonium nitrate but the government. Why had it not been disposed of before? Why did they store a know explosive substance in the middle of the city?
            Also why was there a fireworks factory/warehouse next to it? While ammonium nitrate is relatively inert the same cannot be said for fireworks factories/warehouses. Such a factory/warehouse should never be near a population centre.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
              IMHO the people of Lebanon have good reason to be angry with their politicians.
              This material was impounded in 2013. It was not some importer who was storing the ammonium nitrate but the government. Why had it not been disposed of before? Why did they store a know explosive substance in the middle of the city?
              Also why was there a fireworks factory/warehouse next to it? While ammonium nitrate is relatively inert the same cannot be said for fireworks factories/warehouses. Such a factory/warehouse should never be near a population centre.
              The people who first impounded it are on record seeking alternative storage, stating that where it was stored was unsuitable in the long term. Nothing was done.
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • #22
                I see the EU has activated its Civil Protection Mechanism co-ordinate aid. France is sending aid and the Elysee Palace has said French members of UNIFIL are already assisting.

                Plus Quatar, Kuwait, Turkey and Iraq are sending in plane-loads of medical supplies and field hospitals.

                Source: CNN
                Last edited by Flamingo; 5 August 2020, 16:07.
                'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                • #23
                  Scarey pictures before and after (may not work on phones) https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/05/w...rnd/index.html
                  'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                  'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                  Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                  He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                  http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                    Scarey pictures before and after (may not work on phones) https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/05/w...rnd/index.html
                    You can really see just how lucky the Bangladeshi navy ship was to be behind the silo.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                      IMHO the people of Lebanon have good reason to be angry with their politicians.
                      This material was impounded in 2013. It was not some importer who was storing the ammonium nitrate but the government. Why had it not been disposed of before? Why did they store a know explosive substance in the middle of the city?
                      Also why was there a fireworks factory/warehouse next to it? While ammonium nitrate is relatively inert the same cannot be said for fireworks factories/warehouses. Such a factory/warehouse should never be near a population centre.
                      Exactly what occurred to me (bold text)
                      Substance of an explosive nature should have been stored out in the sticks well away from any populated areas
                      "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                      • #26
                        I think it is easy to tell those who have never been to Lebanon by their expressions of surprise at anything that happens in Lebanon.

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                        • #27
                          “It had been there for six years and had never exploded before” will be someone’s answer...
                          'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                          'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                          Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                          He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                          http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                          • #28
                            A bit more on where and why the ammonium nitrate was stored.
                            https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/05/e...ntl/index.html

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                            • #29
                              Some footage from inside the damaged vessel, clearly showing her proximity to the blast.
                              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                              • #30
                                Interesting blog looking at the RN response, sending a Survey ship to Beruit, and it's usefulness.
                                A blog about UK defence issues which tries to put a positive and fresh look at many current matters impacting UK and wider defence.
                                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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