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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostIf by 2027 they are still at £250m I'd be stunned and as said that's even with pull through from the 23's. Also currently only 5 hulls, if we are talking about trying to increase capabilities for the DF I'd try to pick whatever hull has the largest user base by then, the T31's may not be it.
When you consider that the whole idea of the Type 31e was to win export sales and keep British shipyards open
It is the Type 26 that has won export orders from Canada and Australia (afaik locally built)
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostAgain I repeat, there is the EPV Thread for the replacement of the Eithne; here I asked the question on the P50 class and possible relation with the EPC program due to their similar timeframes for building.
The EPC is proposed in three basic versions none of which are intended to replace any current fleet units. They are:- EPC optimised for anti-surface (ASuW) and anti-aircraft (AAW) warfare with the possibility of extending the warfare domains to anti-submarine warfare (ASW); the vessel is equipped with self-defence capabilities.
- EPC optimized for ant-surface warfare (ASuW) and designed with oceanic reach (range of 10,000 nautical miles at 14 knots).
- EPC optimized for blue-water (off shore) patrol missions
It is the latter version which might be of interest and the one on which early involvement may ensure that the design would be suitable.
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When considering sub-surface threats we also need to consider
This open source intelligence (OSINT) report documents the development of narco-submarines in Spanish waters. These vessels, known as LPVs (Low Profile Vessels) or alternatively SPSS (Self-Propelled Semi-Submersible) vessels, are proliferating globally. These 'narco-submarines' now include three types: Fully Submersible Vessels (FSVs), Low Profile Vessels (LPVs), and hybrid Low Profile Vessels/Go-Fast Vessels (LPV/GFVs).
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Originally posted by DeV View PostWhen considering sub-surface threats we also need to consider
https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/ar...rco-submarines
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The only thing that can spot them is aerial surveillance, the only thing that can catch them is fast boat. The Spanish Customs force have been using both for years in the med, as drug runners cross the med in High Powered boats with often up to 6 250HP engines. (Sometimes called cigarette boats).
The first Transatlantic narco sub was caught with nets.
Thing is, the narco subs are not subs at all. While they may share the hull profile of something seen during the first world war, they are strictly surface transiting craft, with a very low profile. Because 90% of the craft sits below the waterline, they can be quite stable in most seas. You just need to look for their wake and their IR profile from above. On radar, they'll only appear as clutter.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostThe only thing that can spot them is aerial surveillance, the only thing that can catch them is fast boat. The Spanish Customs force have been using both for years in the med, as drug runners cross the med in High Powered boats with often up to 6 250HP engines. (Sometimes called cigarette boats).
The first Transatlantic narco sub was caught with nets.
Thing is, the narco subs are not subs at all. While they may share the hull profile of something seen during the first world war, they are strictly surface transiting craft, with a very low profile. Because 90% of the craft sits below the waterline, they can be quite stable in most seas. You just need to look for their wake and their IR profile from above. On radar, they'll only appear as clutter.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostWould SLAR be better for detecting this type of vessel?
Unless you want to provide a link to an alternative version of the acronym of which you refer to?For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostI don't see how Teacher Professional collaboration in the the Secondary School junior cycle can help.... https://ncca.ie/en/junior-cycle/asse.../slar-meetings
Unless you want to provide a link to an alternative version of the acronym of which you refer to?
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostI don't see how Teacher Professional collaboration in the the Secondary School junior cycle can help.... https://ncca.ie/en/junior-cycle/asse.../slar-meetings
Unless you want to provide a link to an alternative version of the acronym of which you refer to?
A SLAR is normally able to track wakes so it should be something that deter Narco-subs
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I suppose it’s OPSEC to ask if the new PC-12’s can do that?'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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