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  • Irish Air Corps pilots are training in Alabama with US military.

    Seems like smart way forward and a good way to build international relations. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...tary-1.4353859

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    Any pilot can work up hours in the US far quicker than at home. Better weather and plenty of quiet airspace.
    Wouldn't it be funny if our neutrality disappeared not because of any political decision, but instead on the reliance on foreign forces to train our pilots due to Government failing to deal with this issue for over 30 years?
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    • #3
      Probably lack of Instrs being available here and/or aircraft can’t be spared from ops

      Not a bad thing as they will be exposed to different aircraft and procedures

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      • #4
        Fort Rucker houses only heli units, it's the main centre for army heli training. So presumably we are short on heli instructors and possibly helis.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tempest View Post
          Fort Rucker houses only heli units, it's the main centre for army heli training. So presumably we are short on heli instructors and possibly helis.
          "A further six student pilots have been earmarked to undertake fixed-wing pilot training at another base in Alabama next month."

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          • #6
            So we've got or will have 10 pilots training in both the US and Australia, do we know how long the ones in the US will be there for given the Australian ones are there for a couple of years? What fixed wing are based in Alabama that we could be training on?

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            • #7
              AETC is in Maxwell AFB. Possible that students sent there for admin and flying training elsewhere based on career path?
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                So we've got or will have 10 pilots training in both the US and Australia, do we know how long the ones in the US will be there for given the Australian ones are there for a couple of years? What fixed wing are based in Alabama that we could be training on?
                According to the US Army the course is 32 weeks for helicopter pilots:
                https://home.army.mil/rucker/index.p...formation/ierw

                As for fixed wing they have C-12s known to us as the KingAir!

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                • #9
                  Looks good. How does the Training stack up compared to what the Air Corp would have put them through

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                  • #10
                    Might be a bit of a downer when they return after all the Gung Ho Top Gunnnish time in the States .
                    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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                    • #11
                      when you see how easy aviation is in the States, compared to here, it can suck the fun out of it a bit.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Laners View Post
                        Might be a bit of a downer when they return after all the Gung Ho Top Gunnnish time in the States .
                        Perhaps they can bring back some toys to play with here:
                        https://defence-blog.com/news/army/u...licopters.html

                        “The United States Government (USG) Army Contracting Command- Redstone Arsenal (ACC-RSA) is conducting market research to determine potential sources for the depopulation of the Apache AH-64D for the Project Manager for Apache Attack Helicopter (PM AAH) within the Program Executive Office for Aviation (PEO AVN),” the notice reads. “The USG seeks to identify potential sources that possess the expertise, capabilities, and experience to meet the requirements necessary to depopulate the Apache AH-64D Attack Helicopter, sourced directly to the Government.”
                        They are looking to get rid of 3-7 per month!

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                        • #13
                          Outside of a Hovertanks thread, would Ireland have a use for half a dozen Apaches? (It’s about the only weapons system I haven’t seen a thread on)
                          'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                          'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                          Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                          He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                          http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                            Outside of a Hovertanks thread, would Ireland have a use for half a dozen Apaches? (It’s about the only weapons system I haven’t seen a thread on)
                            No, whatever about current pilot availability, Apache is particularly difficult to operate, and otherwise excellent pilots fail to make the grade. Spatial awareness being the issue. Imagine flying with one eye looking from its normal perspective, while the other is removed from its socket and now sees the world from 10 feet in front of you below where your toes are. Oh also can you pat your head, rub your tummy while standing on one leg while your other foot taps out the beat for seven nation army.
                            It's believed to be the most difficult aircraft to fly.
                            Former AAC pilot Ed Macy did a good book on it a few years ago. Three years to learn it start to finish.
                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • #15
                              i always thought the cobra would be a better fit then the Apache for a smaller defense budget
                              Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.

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