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    Infrastrata appear to be flinging money at Appledore at present to bring it up to modern standard (not that it was lacking). Samson and Goliath in Belfast got an overhaul too.
    They appear to be in a hurry also, something must be in the pipeline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    The only way that will happen is if France and Spain start downsizing.
    UK Naval fleet: 77 Navy RFA 13
    French Navy: 110 Ships and subs
    Spanish Navy: 138 Ships & Subs
    Don't get caught by the numbers trap, it is not a good indicator of the power of a navy. Not all commissioned vessels can be counted as like-for-like. We could buy 500 Optimists and commission each one, on paper we would then have the biggest navy in the world!

    The RN is the biggest in Europe at present, the French are in second place with the Italians taking the final place on the podium.

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    There has been some speculation in the Defence Media that the Type-32 might be the replacement of the MCMV fleet, a bit like the original proposal in Project SEA 1180 Phase 1 now known as the Arafura class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Infrastrata appear to be flinging money at Appledore at present to bring it up to modern standard (not that it was lacking). Samson and Goliath in Belfast got an overhaul too.
    They appear to be in a hurry also, something must be in the pipeline.
    I read somewhere that they are going to target large trawler builds for Appledore but I can't remember where...and the Ukrainian Naval order would be a great win for Appledore.

    The Belfast yard has been very busy this year with dry-dockings...well over 20 vessels from Cruise Liners to small Coasters.

    Stena Europe the Fishguard-Rosslare ferry is due to dry-dock tomorrow for 5-6 weeks; a complete re-build of the steel on her car decks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky42 View Post
    Given reportedly that Babcock is trying to sell 4 31's to Greece (with a local build and support) for £2 billion currently, how likely is a "Type 32" with upgraded systems/capabilities would be cost effective for some of the mid tier navies?
    The Greeks are going for US/French mix, I see little chance of them going for a Type-31 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUFighter View Post
    The Greeks are going for US/French mix, I see little chance of them going for a Type-31 as well.
    True, but given the US is trying to sell them LCS’s, anything is better than that option. My point however is if true it gives us an idea of the price tag of the 31 without being capped by the U.K.

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    This is a good article from STRN -

    https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/rea...igate-concept/
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