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    The Grenadier Guards have their first female guardsman

    https://twitter.com/GrenadierGds/sta...69656955867137



    Yeeek the fking ties forgot how silly that all was

    took them long enough
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    When you consider how long it has been since the Household Cavalry and RHA had "fems" both in ceremonial and frontline service.
    They really batter their new entrants with heritage and tradition from the start.
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    yep, entering a "proper" regiment means seperating them from the chavs and oiks that make up regular, unwashed regiments.

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    Fems was something one would only see in the Fish an Chip regiments.

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    I pity her.
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    German 1: That is the bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    I pity her.
    She’s going to need a bigger pair than most of the guys...
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
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    What I want to know is, why has the WO1 got his swagger stick tucked under his right oxter? Need the right arm/hand for saluting. Also need it for HOLDING same stick when pointing out dress faults on parade...
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    This appears to be a swearing-in ceremony, maybe that's why.

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    It's a mini indoor flag ,bring it to an upright position to perform a salute, hence the reason for it being in his right hand .
    Last edited by Laners; 18th December 2020 at 05:26.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    What I want to know is, why has the WO1 got his swagger stick tucked under his right oxter? Need the right arm/hand for saluting. Also need it for HOLDING same stick when pointing out dress faults on parade...
    Do you really want to argue Drill with a Grenadier Guards WO?
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
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    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
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    I've sworn a ton of people in without any flags being dipped is it the tie he's saluting or what .

    how do you know he's a wo what am I missing also why is the major wearing para wings do they do that on the wooly pully .
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    I've sworn a ton of people in without any flags being dipped is it the tie he's saluting or what .

    how do you know he's a wo what am I missing also why is the major wearing para wings do they do that on the wooly pully .
    3 Para have a Guards parachute platoon, it's members having completed P Company. His beret is Guards though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    3 Para have a Guards parachute platoon, it's members having completed P Company. His beret is Guards though.
    The para wings can be worn in perpetuity once earned and if you've served in an airborne unit (which guards para platoon obviously is). The maroon headress is only worn when actually serving with the unit however. The soldier reverts back to the beret of their home unit when they return to their regiment. Makes sense here as the major is dealing with recruits (and there wouldn't be a role for guards major in 3 para anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    The para wings can be worn in perpetuity once earned and if you've served in an airborne unit (which guards para platoon obviously is). The maroon headress is only worn when actually serving with the unit however.
    Para beret for everyone who serves in the Parachute Battalion, they don't necessarily have to be para-qualified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    I've sworn a ton of people in without any flags being dipped is it the tie he's saluting or what .

    how do you know he's a wo what am I missing also why is the major wearing para wings do they do that on the wooly pully .
    Educated guess, as he's holding said stick and standing in the background
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poiuyt View Post
    Para beret for everyone who serves in the Parachute Battalion, they don't necessarily have to be para-qualified.
    Wouldn't have thought so... is that correct? Given the para beret is a symbol of qualification as well as unit identity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Wouldn't have thought so... is that correct? Given the para beret is a symbol of qualification as well as unit identity
    It is correct. The para roled units would have clerks assigned from the AGC for example and many of them would not have completed (or would need to have completed) the basic parachute course. Parachute training is expensive and there are high barriers to entry in British service at least. Specifically the maroon beret is worn by parachute regiment soldiers and also soldiers serving with parachute roled units (specifically in 16 AA brigade).

    The big difference is that the maroon beret is only worn by other regiments while serving in para roled units. Don't forget that they would wear different cap badges with the maroon beret.

    The real distinction is attainting the parachute regiment cap badge and also the wings which are worn in perpetuity.

    Just on the reserve side of things - members of 4 para who have passed out of training often have to wait many months or even years to get a spot on the basic para course but of course wear the maroon beret until that point.
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    I’ve known female RAMC serving with PARA units who had a maroon beret, but couldn’t do P Company even if they had wanted to (this was the 90’s). Same goes for blanket stackers attached to THEM, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    I’ve known female RAMC serving with PARA units who had a maroon beret, but couldn’t do P Company even if they had wanted to (this was the 90’s). Same goes for blanket stackers attached to THEM, I believe.
    Have you come across many wearing the 'light bulb' during your service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    Have you come across many wearing the 'light bulb' during your service?
    Yea, quite a few. It’s so long ago I can’t remember the exact refs, but I’m sure it was for completing P Company but not currently serving with an airborne unit and (open to correction) not up to date with Para qualification (I think).

    I remember a few Commando dagger’s worn on uniforms as well.
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
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    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Wouldn't have thought so... is that correct? Given the para beret is a symbol of qualification as well as unit identity
    even in Hereford - Attached Arms (and pretty much all Army personnel posted to Stirling Lines) wear the 'Sandy Beret' of 22SAS despite never having even attempted UKSF selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
    even in Hereford - Attached Arms (and pretty much all Army personnel posted to Stirling Lines) wear the 'Sandy Beret' of 22SAS despite never having even attempted UKSF selection.

    When in Rome....
    I thought that was the case.
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
    even in Hereford - Attached Arms (and pretty much all Army personnel posted to Stirling Lines) wear the 'Sandy Beret' of 22SAS despite never having even attempted UKSF selection.

    When in Rome....
    Also correct. They still need cooks and clerks.

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