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    Another nail in the coffin for Baldonnel I think. This further reduces space for future expansion. The site is alongside, and on the threshold of 05/23, ruling out any hope of extending that to the south in future. The Amazon Buildings will be closer to the runway than any of the Air Corps Hangars currently are.


    The developer of Amazon’s new €60 million Dublin “fulfilment centre”, which will help it bypass Brexit delays and speed up deliveries to Irish customers, has drafted in a specialist US group that has built facilities for the web retailing giant all over the US.

    Mountpark, the developer of the project known as Unit E at Baldonnell Business Park just off the N7 dual carriageway in west Dublin, has teamed up with USAA Real Estate Company, which has built Amazon centres in California, Texas, Florida and Minnesota. Construction is expected to begin shortly on the 654,000sq ft Dublin project, the biggest warehouse planned in Ireland in 2021.

    Planning documents for the new facility, which is located next to the Irish military’s Casement Aerodrome, also reveal the Department of Defence has demanded the developers co-ordinate with the Irish Air Corps during construction to ensure that cranes required during building do not endanger Irish military flights to and from the adjacent landing strips.

    Brexit pipeline
    An Post, which handles most of Amazon’s Irish deliveries, says the new facility will mean “Irish Amazon customers will get their purchases faster” and “avoid the Brexit pipeline” that is being blamed for delays in certain deliveries from the UK. Building industry research company Building Information Ireland has put the value of the Amazon scheme at €60 million.

    As part of the planning application, the developers justified the need for the project on the basis that “in light of the recent Covid-19 pandemic, there has been increased demand for such developments as online shopping has been at an all-time high”.

    Although Amazon declined to say how many staff will be employed at what will be its first Irish fulfilment centre, USAA recently developed a near-identical facility for Amazon in Beaumont, California, which opened in September and now employs 1,000 staff. Another similar Amazon facility that recently opened in the UK also employs 1,000.
    Aristocratic farmer
    Mountpark and USAA are also required to pay South Dublin County Council a development fee of €5.5 million, permission documents show.

    The development entity, MLEU Dublin 2, has also struck a deal worth at least €7.5 million with an aristocratic farmer based in Carlow to acquire lands needed for the Amazon project. Public filings for MLEU in the Companies Registration Office reveal it owes Charles Verschoyle-Greene, whose family has links to the British royal family, a deferred sum of €7.5 million for three parcels of land off the N7.

    The project includes 340 parking spaces, 22 motorcycle spaces and 160 bike parking racks for staff. Under the local authority’s development guidelines, it should have 607 parking spaces on the basis of its size, but the number was reduced because it would “exceed the number of staff on site at any one time”.

    When asked for further details of the project, Amazon said it did not comment on “rumour and speculation”.
    The Planning notice is here.
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    Looking at the site layout, the planned buildings, and proposed future buildings are parallel to the runway, I would be worried though about waste and litter control, when you take into account the number of vehicles that will attend the site both during construction and when in operation, as if it's not controlled, could bring vermin of the feathered variety close to the runway.

    Last edited by CTU; 30 January 2021, 12:34.
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    • #3
      The battle for Baldonnel was lost many years ago when the first unit in the business park was given approval.
      While many do and will continue to argue that local authorities should be responsible for local planning we have seen how this has a negative effect on strategic national assets be they be airbases or ports!
      The location of Baldonnel mean that sooner or later it will become impossible to continue to operate it as the states only military airbase. So when we do finally decide to move the future location must be better protected against such encroachment. Perhaps that means that the area around any future base must be declared a strategic planning zone with any new developments requiring Dail approval rather than just local planners-

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      • #4
        It seems they have bird netting included in the site drawings , only thing missing is a taxi way up to the facility for aircraft to deliver the airborne freight !
        Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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        • #5
          Not such Amazon will be happy when the future Air Corps AUDS system starts knocking down their delivery drones!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Laners View Post
            It seems they have bird netting included in the site drawings , only thing missing is a taxi way up to the facility for aircraft to deliver the airborne freight !
            That’s probably part of someone’s plan. Don’t forget, more of the population consider Amazon an essential service than consider the Air Corps one...
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            • #7
              Might be a good time to buy property around Shannon.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                That’s probably part of someone’s plan. Don’t forget, more of the population consider Amazon an essential service than consider the Air Corps one...
                And they treat their staff almost as bad as the DF are treated by the DoD.
                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                • #9
                  If necessary
                  The electronic Irish Statute Book (eISB) comprises the Acts of the Oireachtas (Parliament), Statutory Instruments, Legislation Directory, Constitution and a limited number of pre-1922 Acts.

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                    • #11
                      Isnt that the link i posted?
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                        Isnt that the link i posted?
                        My bad

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                          Might be a good time to buy property around Shannon.
                          Looks like Amazon is thinking the same.

                          Shannon Group has been in talks with online retail giant Amazon about the possibility of locating a significant distribution facility and other infrastructure at Shannon Airport in what would be a major coup for the region.
                          It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
                          It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
                          It was a new age...It was the end of history.
                          It was the year everything changed.

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                          • #14
                            The new Pilatus aircraft might be getting a roundel painted on after all !
                            Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CTU View Post
                              Looks like Amazon is thinking the same.

                              https://www.independent.ie/business/...-40033977.html
                              Thing is, Shannon free zone already had a multitude of large commercial units, that don't impact on the Aerodrome operations or security in any way. Many of the older factory buildings have been demolished in recent years, leaving ideal space for new development, such as amazon, unless they actually want to build it on the runway.
                              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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