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    BQMS Liachta Cultaca's Avatar
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    RDF PTI/PTS course.

    The RDFRA ADC is on this weekend. Does anybody think that the a course designed to produce RDF PTL/PTS instructor should be a motion they try and pass.

    Has a similiar course being run in the Western brigade? All info on this course would be appreciated length, prerequisites for the course etc...

    I hate it when you can't doing some physical training in the RDF because of the lack of a qualified PTI/PTS/PTL.

    Should civilian qualifications be recognised??.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    These courses are being run...
    Have you any more info? Duration , who runs the course, how many places?

    In which brigade are the courses being run?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    Ask docman, he did one.
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    He did a civvie course in Dublin...

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    Is it possible to enter the PDF as a physical training instructor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    Allegedly he did a PTI course also.
    Yes, I did a PTI cse.......a civilian one. There are PTIs outside the army as well. PTI is part of the all incompassing civilian HFI qualification (Health & Fitness instructor). I have never used my qualification in the Army but hope to some day if recognised.

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    Who did you do the course with?
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    I know members of the 25th Bn who were able to take Minor PT classes

    Any members of the 25th Bn have any other news of this?
    Last edited by Liachta Cultaca; 5th May 2005 at 20:00.

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    To my knowledge there are no RDF PTI courses, and civvie courses are not recognised. The reserve needs reserve PTIs. This is a major issue that is not being addressed because PDF PTIs are browning their trousers at the prospect of being replaced by a sandbag.

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    Its a pity we really need PTI.
    Just a question are all PDF NCOs PTI's????
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    That's a negatory good buddy.
    They have to do a course.

    However, any nco is allowed to march troops ar sodar (as far as i know, jump in and correct me if i'm wrong), which some people get sniffy about. It's a drill movement. Also, they're allowed to do some core stability excercises, like making troops hold a rifle out from their body for 30/60 seconds.
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    there are a few Non NCO PTI's but they have done there course a while ago, nowadays the requirement is you become a PTL (only NCO's) and then go and do a PTS cse and then after a years experience do the PTI cse,
    it would be a foolish NCO who would let a private double time any body and a clown of a one to let a private supervise calastethics

    if someone has the Jane Fonda course done in civy street thats fine, but hte PTI/PTS/PTL course is more concerned with soldiers PT, which involves basic stuff like tumbling, rope climbing, the balance beam and the vaulting horse,

    its not all the glamorous stuff of running around a barracks

    every so often the army run a conversion course for those who have the NCEF cse

    be exceptionally careful in this day and age about PT training
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    Im currently doing the NCEF course. It would be an idea to take on a few fitness instructors in the RDF for some basic PT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog
    there are a few Non NCO PTI's but they have done there course a while ago, nowadays the requirement is you become a PTL (only NCO's) and then go and do a PTS cse and then after a years experience do the PTI cse,
    it would be a foolish NCO who would let a private double time any body and a clown of a one to let a private supervise calastethics

    if someone has the Jane Fonda course done in civy street thats fine, but hte PTI/PTS/PTL course is more concerned with soldiers PT, which involves basic stuff like tumbling, rope climbing, the balance beam and the vaulting horse,

    its not all the glamorous stuff of running around a barracks

    every so often the army run a conversion course for those who have the NCEF cse

    be exceptionally careful in this day and age about PT training
    Whats the difference in what PTLs / PTSs / PTIs can do with troops?
    Can a NCOs (who ISN'T any of the above) ar solar troops?

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    A PTL or (PT Leader) works under the supervision of a PTI or a PTS ( PT Supervisor) - all Potential NCO's do a PTL course- then some do a PTS course and then after a year the PTS's can go on the PTI Cse.

    Course length for a PTL is 2 weeks.

    So the PTL course should be open to the RDF.
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    How much did the private course cost?

    Who did you do it with?
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    Privately, it costs between 1600 and 1800 euro and can be done at the National Training Centre in Dublin

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    PTI course is around 16 weeks long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liachta Cultaca
    A PTL or (PT Leader) works under the supervision of a PTI or a PTS ( PT Supervisor) - all Potential NCO's do a PTL course- then some do a PTS course and then after a year the PTS's can go on the PTI Cse.

    Course length for a PTL is 2 weeks.

    So the PTL course should be open to the RDF.
    Thats where I was getting confused.
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    there is no logical reason why rdf members cannot do the PTL course- in fact there is one scheduled for the PDF pot cse very shortly, so all it takes is a little lobbying and interviewing with CO's etc, to make the case and join in the course-
    I actually think its the way we should be going and i hope it happens
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    In this months Connect there is a PTL course advertised. Anyone interested could contact their cadre staff to see if RDF places were allocated

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    i've been told that members of the btc are goin on this course
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    Two Instructors from E Bde Res BTC are presently on the course, which finishes today

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    What happened to the BTC(D)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog
    there is no logical reason why rdf members cannot do the PTL course- in fact there is one scheduled for the PDF pot cse very shortly, so all it takes is a little lobbying and interviewing with CO's etc, to make the case and join in the course-
    I actually think its the way we should be going and i hope it happens
    Two RDF NCOs were on that PTL course, and they both passed, afaik.

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