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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie252 View Post
    Thats a Valid Question and I have never gotten a plausible answer, I don't recall a tender process, the aircraft was not bought by the AC but rather the GS and I don't know which if any other aircraft were considered.
    It was a restricted tender for security reasons

    The spec was decided by an Inter-departmental group with the AC

    5 tenders were received

    The lowest 2 were rejected as they were single engine, the cheapest twin engine was selected.

    http://www.audgen.gov.ie/documents/a...0/Chapter5.pdf


    . IMHO it was a terrible report and has hamstrung the AC in so many ways since.
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    Medium lift helo contract (S92) messed up by Government interference
    Single type highly capable basic/advanced trainer (PC9) to replace 2 types
    2 very capable types of helicopters to replace 3 very basic/uniquely complex types
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    The medium lift was a nice idea but it was only with a view towards SAR.
    The PC-9 is what it is and the debate around that aircraft rumbles on, the report also mentions outsourcing of pilot training.

    The recommendations regarding the Squirrel and Defender framed the view that there was no role for the AC overseas then or in the future. Those recommendations were in my view derived with the least possible cost as the main driver and no real though was attached to Mission effectiveness or aircraft capabilities. Fortunately the AC managed to secure the EC-135/AW-139 mix which is a significant step up from the recommendations of that and other reports and are actually more capable then was envisaged by the DOD prior to the tender process.

    The question as posed, is what of the future. In reality a root and branch review is most likely required to define the roles and desirable capabilities for the next 10 years out of that type of review a more enlightened view can be derived for a possible future fleet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie252 View Post
    The medium lift was a nice idea but it was only with a view towards SAR.
    Not what the PwC report says

    The recommendations regarding the Squirrel and Defender framed the view that there was no role for the AC overseas then or in the future.
    And Government policy with the previous White Paper was?

    Fortunately the AC managed to secure the EC-135/AW-139 mix
    only because of the failure of the medium lift contract

    The question as posed, is what of the future. In reality a root and branch review is most likely required to define the roles and desirable capabilities for the next 10 years out of that type of review a more enlightened view can be derived for a possible future fleet..
    The new White Paper may bring that

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