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    Originally posted by easyrider View Post
    According to the Irish Times website, she dragged her anchor in heavy seas early this morning. Presumably she was waiting for daylight and/or high tide, before entering the port to pick up the ferries.
    The mcib report on the Pantanal is up on the mcib site, www.mcib.ie . Incident started and finished very quickly,unlikely the availability of a ETV would have made any diff.

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    • Originally posted by danno View Post
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      The mcib report on the Pantanal is up on the mcib site, www.mcib.ie . Incident started and finished very quickly,unlikely the availability of a ETV would have made any diff.
      That, and what happpened with those boats after is a very very dodgy story, in my opinion.


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • Another incident...

        The skipper of a cargo ship has been fined £3,000 for failing to alter his course and prevent grounding the vessel on a small island off North Uist.
        'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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        • Not having emergency rough weather bollard pull capacity in a state is like driving without a seat belt on.

          You may never crash!

          If you do crash it might only be a fender bender!

          If you have a bad crash a seat belt might have made no difference as you either walk away fine or you are dead anyway!

          However....if you have that bad crash and a seat belt would have made the difference was wearing it all those years a waste of time and expense? your spouse may get lots of compo but be honest is that what you would want at that point?

          And yes - ETV's should be patrol vessels carrying out coast guarding activities along you high risk axises.

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          • Originally posted by chrisr View Post
            Not having emergency rough weather bollard pull capacity in a state is like driving without a seat belt on.

            You may never crash!

            If you do crash it might only be a fender bender!

            If you have a bad crash a seat belt might have made no difference as you either walk away fine or you are dead anyway!

            However....if you have that bad crash and a seat belt would have made the difference was wearing it all those years a waste of time and expense? your spouse may get lots of compo but be honest is that what you would want at that point?

            And yes - ETV's should be patrol vessels carrying out coast guarding activities along you high risk axises.
            Who would man it Chrisr?

            CG, civilian contract crew, NS? Or are there other options?

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            • Originally posted by Dogwatch View Post
              Who would man it Chrisr?

              CG, civilian contract crew, NS? Or are there other options?
              I would think a mixed crew. you need a towage and salvage master and experience deckhands in these areas so rent in. remainder of crew should be NS for its coastal state enforcement role

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              • Wouild something like the Granuaile with a NS detatchment fit this model,the USCG undertakes the role of Irish Lights,

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                • The USCG also undertakes the role of the RNLI, Port State control, Naval Service, Customs, Garda Water unit etc etc...


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • "port state control"?

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                    • Paris MOU.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • As things stand here,the NS performs all of the tasks listed by GF in some shape or form but does not do navigation safety measures,the CG here do none of the above directly save for a few coastal ribs and heli ops.The CG is still largely a coordination op .Must be poss only CG to have no seagoing ships ever under its command.

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                        • Must get you to read up on Coast Guard Functions Danno. You think of CGs as structures when in fact you need to think of them as functional activities i.e.
                          i. maritime safety, including vessel traffic management;
                          ii. maritime security;
                          iii. maritime customs activities;
                          iv. the prevention and suppression of trafficking and smuggling and connected maritime law enforcement;
                          v. maritime border control;
                          vi. maritime surveillance;
                          vii. maritime environmental protection and response;
                          viii. search and rescue;
                          ix. accident and disaster response;
                          x. fisheries control; and
                          xi. activities related to the above Coast Guard Functions.

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                          • Fair enough,we have a structure we have functions but little or no direct CG surface assets to deal with the above.Other State marine agencies all have assets eg NS,Customs,Garda,Fishery Board,Irish Lights,Port ops,Mar inst etc and all do/can deal with tasks relating to the above,is there any need for CG surface assets.

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                            • I dought if you could consider Irish Lights and it's assets as a State Body.
                              Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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                              • Originally posted by Laners View Post
                                I dought if you could consider Irish Lights and it's assets as a State Body.
                                from cil.ie
                                The cost of the Service to mariners is met from the General Lighthouse Fund which derives its income mainly from light dues that are charged on commercial shipping calling at UK and Irish ports. The Irish Government contributes to the Fund under the terms of an agreed formula.
                                State funded?


                                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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