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  • If you fix the drydock in Haulbowline you need to invest in cranes too. A drydock is useless without it. Mobile cranes driving around shoreside just don't do the job.
    Ideally a Goliath.
    A few million would go a long way in Cork dockyard too , however its current owner is reluctant to spend any money on it. When things break, they rarely get fixed. A south facing dry dock would be a much better option there, however the housing developments of the last few years nearby have ruled out any chance of any improvement being made to it, even if the money was available.


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    • ye true on that mobile crane two ships along side make things hard for a crane operator view and all that.. Goldie have u heard any rumours on design of new ship if it gets the go a head or are they still trying to make up there mind with costs whats cheapest.. or are we definitely looking at new p 51 just 5 meters longer . who would u put ur money on to build it appledore or aker yards

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      • Nothing will be revealed until contracts have been signed after funding has been approved.


        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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        • These would be nice!


          BAE Systems 90m OPV


          BAE Systems 99m corvette

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          • Problem with that 99m helipad and hanger. We would not need it, plus those missile tubes buy here funnel. We don't need them. We're fisheries, we only need to inspect a trawler, not blow him out of the wate. We have a flight deck, what a waste. That is shocking..........



            MOD: Zone 1, please refrain from posting entirely in caps. Perhaps you are unaware, but it is equivelant to shouting and is considered bad manners. I have edited your post for you this time, but that will be a once off. If it happens again, the post will disappear.
            Last edited by johnny no stars; 22 November 2009, 18:12.

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            • Originally posted by zone 1 View Post
              Problem with that 99m helipad and hanger. We would not need it, plus those missile tubes buy here funnel. We don't need them. We're fisheries, we only need to inspect a trawler, not blow him out of the wate. We have a flight deck, what a waste. That is shocking..........
              Helipad - It's called future proofing also, the use of appropriate UAVs have been mooted in the past. Additionally, given the massvely increased area contained within the EEZ it is inevitable that at some point in the future that the NS will work alongside some or other partner that will necessitiate the use of rortary assets even if just as a patient/ prisioner/ transfer

              Missle tubes -1- dont have to have anything in them and
              -2- don't actually have to be fitted!
              Fisheries does indeed form a large part of the NS mission/role. It is not however, the sole role., Patrol & 'control' of EEZ involves a range of activities other than checking the haddck stock.
              Check out the DF news thread.
              Last edited by Pod; 22 November 2009, 18:44. Reason: spelling & punctuation.

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              • pod future what.... missile tube ..... dont get them if not putting anything in them.... fisherise is 99 percent of the navys role u slot everthing else in around that

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                • If you want to stay doing fisheries forever, then you equip it for just that.

                  But the 1% today could be the 50% tomorrow. Somalia for example, is an operation the Naval Service is perfectly capable of, if the assets were available.


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • Originally posted by zone 1 View Post
                    missile tube ..... dont get them if not putting anything in them....
                    Do you honestly believe that when the ship was being designed that the first thing on the designers computer screen was the missile tube and every thing else was designed around that?

                    Those missile tubes are optional. You dont have to put them on the vessel.

                    Imagine the ship without the missile tubes.

                    It may surprise you to know that Eithne is capable of being upgunned if needs be and was designed to be from the start with a weapons fit suitable to its role being fitted during the build.

                    The fact that you can see missile tubes in the picture does not mean they must be on an actual production ship.

                    It's not a bad thing to have the option of fitting them in the future if circumstances are changed.
                    Last edited by Jetjock; 23 November 2009, 08:34.

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                    • ye and eithne as flight deck and what use is it .. where would those future weapons go on her then... plus i was just saying we don't need anything like that for our ships were just fisheries protection

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                      • It may surprise you to know that Eithne is capable of being upgunned if needs be and was designed to be from the start with a weapons fit suitable to its role being fitted during the build
                        Yes I'm surprised..well no actually I'm not as up gunned may not be the best choice of words but there are several ,bolt on' system available that would increase capabilities.

                        Design does not lend and of the NS Fleet to 'War Fighting'...they are Patrol vessels plain and simple.

                        The clue being in the speed..the only ones capable of keeping up with a battle group if deployed as part of such would be the Peacocks

                        ye and eithne as flight deck and what use is it .. where would those future weapons go on her then.

                        Fligt deck had a use until someone bought the wrong helo and not enough of them to make it work..it wass there as part of the design can't be removed, althought it could stillbe used and has been to land troops on expanding the role of Eithne to a mini troop carrier at times.

                        Take a lesson from History and see where additional weapons can be added...few spot welds her presto Mount for a GPMG on the guard rails.


                        Rmour has it RBS SAM was trialled off the flight deck..so its not as basic as you think.

                        The PVs were built as Fishery protection vssels or more specifically the LE Deirdre was and the rest raised the bar,

                        From Eithne on they were built as Patrol vessels with FP being one of the roles.....structured as part of The Defence Forces so should have some defence capabilties, which they have .
                        Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                        • Originally posted by zone 1 View Post
                          ye and eithne as flight deck and what use is it .. where would those future weapons go on her then... plus i was just saying we don't need anything like that for our ships were just fisheries protection
                          They are not just fisheries protection! That is the job of the Fisheries Protection agency.
                          I suggest you Google Marita Ann, Chicotumi, Kowloon Bridge, Brime, Dances with waves.
                          Then tell me what type of fish these vessels were catching.
                          I fail to see why you are commenting on a thread about New Naval vessels when it is quite clear you have no knowledge of the role the Naval Service carries out.


                          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                          • Going by the tenders, i would have said that they're looking for the EPV for possible overseas deployment. Although a lot of peple have focused on the possible role in shipping supplies, I for one would perfer a ship capable of operating in missions like Somalia, with an adequate self defence capability.

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                            • true Paul g a ship been able to work in anti piracy would make sense .. as it stand the peacocks might just be able to do that kind of job plus there showing there age to.. as well been not built for our west coast but they have done a fine job

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                              • Only 90% of patrol days were for fisheries protection duties in 2008

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