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  • Its written in stone now!


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    • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post

      Now it will happen!

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      • Will anything like progress reports appear in the defence forces website for the 2 new ships ? Or will it be a case of waiting until they are being commissioned ?
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        • I'll keep you posted as much as practical. Intend spending lots of my holiday time in the Devon area.


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          • Deputy Seán Sherlock asked the Minister for Defence the expected delivery date for the two new Naval Service vessels; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [47275/10]

            Minister for Defence (Deputy Tony Killeen): Following a two-stage tender competition a contract has recently been awarded to the preferred bidder, Babcock Marine, for the provision of two new Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs) for the Naval Service. Preparations for the construction of these new vessels have commenced and the first new vessel is scheduled for delivery in early 2014. The second vessel will follow one year later.
            The acquisition of these modern new vessels, combined with a continuous process of refurbishment and repair, will ensure that the operational capability of the Naval Service is maintained at a satisfactory level.


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            • operational capability of the Naval Service is maintained at a satisfactory level.
              Whose satisfaction?
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              • You know, when you get a review in work and you get "satisfactory", usually that is just one above "could do better"


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                • Government's

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                  • So....forgive my ignorance but is anything known about the final specification for the tender such as size, crew number, armament etc?

                    I have searched and haven't really seen anything except this article in shipsmonthly.com http://www.shipsmonthly.com/news/492...for-irish-navy

                    If they really are going to be 90m does that not make them bigger than Eithne?


                    Edit: I have since found this article in "The Tele" http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/br...-14877569.html
                    Last edited by mugs; 3 January 2011, 21:54.
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                    • The specs are for a vessel 80-90 metres (Eithne is just under 81, Roisin & Niamh are just under 79 in comparsion).

                      The real specs (as per DOD) can be found here:


                      What has been agreed will be within these limits.

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                      • Dev, dev, dev

                        DEV.

                        Mugs, read through the thread from about page 49 onwards. Everything we know about the new vessel has been posted here.


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                        • To the best of my knowledge nothing about the exact specs has come out from either DoD/DF or Babcock since this:

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                          • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                            To the best of my knowledge nothing about the exact specs has come out from either DoD/DF or Babcock since this:

                            http://www.defence.ie/WebSite.nsf/Re...C?OpenDocument


                            The notes for editors, which I had eyes on, (but didnt get a chance to photo) had much more detail about specs.


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                            • More than this?:

                              Note for Editors:

                              A vessel replacement strategy for the Naval Service has been in progress since 2007 when Government approval to proceed with a tender competition was granted. In 2009 Babcock Marine, was selected for the purchase of two Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs) with an option on a third. Following some discussions with Babcock the cost of the two OPVs was set at just under €100m. This price was agreed in principle last summer and was based on the execution of a contract at that time and with delivery of the vessels in 2011 and 2012.

                              Agreement has now been reached between the Minister of Finance, Mr Brian Lenihan, TD and Minister Killeen in the context of the 2011 Estimates for the funding arrangements for the vessel replacement programme. The proposed contract will provide for delivery of two OPVs, one in 2014 and the other 2015 with payment extending out to 2017.

                              The Report of the Special Group on Public Service Numbers and Expenditure Programmes considered the Naval Vessel Replacement Programme and recommended that it be extended over a longer timeframe than initially envisaged. Originally, the replacement programme was due to run from 2008 to 2012. By extending the lifespan of the current vessels, the lengthy build process means they will not now be replaced until they have been in service for at least 36 years. Payment for the vessels will be made over a number of years out to 2017.

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                              • The notes for editors I saw took up 6 pages. The release took 2. See the photo?

                                Just trust me Dev.

                                Shipyard celebrates fishery vessels order

                                SHIP AHOY: Le Roisin, one of the newest Irish Patrol Vessels. Appledore has secured the contract to build two more similar vessels for the Irish Navy.
                                By laura churchill lchurchill@c-dm.co.uk

                                APPLEDORE SHIPYARD has secured an £85 million deal to build two ships for the Irish navy.

                                Babcock Marine, which owns the shipyard, has won the bid to build the two patrol vessels for the Irish Naval Service.

                                They will be designed and built entirely in Appledore.

                                Final details of the contract are still under negotiation, but it is said to be worth about 100 million Euros.

                                Shipbuilding director Andrew Hamilton said it was fantastic news for Appledore and North Devon.

                                He said: "I met the whole of the workforce on Monday to announce the new contract and everyone was delighted.

                                "The vessels will be designed and built at Appledore, which will mean an increase of white collar and blue collar workers."

                                He said the number of new jobs created by the contract was still to be confirmed, but it would also mean more apprentices for Appledore.

                                The contract will be signed in September and design work will begin.

                                The first steel should be cut in May, 2012.

                                The two new vessels will be 90 metres long, have a top speed of 23 knots, accommodate a crew of 44 with 10 apprentices.

                                The vessels will also have a 76mm gun, as well as two heavy machine guns and four general purpose machine guns.

                                The vessels will replace older ships in 2014 and 2015 to maintain defence, customs and fisheries duties on Ireland's 3,500 miles of coastline.

                                Six of the current fleet of eight vessels protecting Ireland's shoreline will be at least 30 years old by 2015.

                                The Irish Navy plans to replaced its entire force of offshore patrol vessels and boats between 2007 and 2025.

                                Since December, 2008, Appledore Shipyard has been making parts for the first of two aircraft carriers for the Royal Navy since December 2008.

                                The £50 million contract has secured 300 jobs in North Devon until 2015.

                                The yard has been building the bow sections for the two aircraft carriers — HM Queen Elizabeth and HM Prince of Wales.

                                Irish Defence Minister Tony Killeen said the Government had agreed to finance the vessels.
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                                Last edited by Goldie fish; 4 January 2011, 15:25.


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