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I like WB and I have read his poetry- but I cant actually pick anything out of a poem of his that would equate to the name of a vessel- unless its the LE Wild Swans- LE Sally Garden- LE When you are old.
It would be so so simple to get suggestions from NS Bodies past and present and make a short list ( shortlis committee to consist of all ranks) and put the short list to the vote of the NS persons- there families and the ex sea hags.
Was there ever an LE Maebh,
and when a lot of vessels are named worldwide - they are given imagineative names that inspire etc etc- were the naming committee on a jolly boys outing when HMS Ocean got her name?
It is worth recalling that L.E. Aisling, in a break from tradition, instead of being named after an Irish Historic Heroine, was named to commemorate Padraig Pearse's centenary, after a Poetic Genre, normally Ireland appears to the poet in a vision in the form of a woman, sometimes young and beautiful, sometimes old and haggard.
My that logic, we could theoretically see a ship named "limerick", "ode" or "haiku".
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
It wouldn't surprise me if the next ships are coincidentally named after some politician's daughter.
stick with what they know.
us ex sea hags have a tendencey to name our daughters after ships!!!!! My eldest daughter was called Aisling in a compromise as no way in hell would the wife let me call her Eithne. the Compromise was I had done my firts gunner shoot on Aisling where as I had served on Eithne for two years.
I 'd like to see the former ships names being recycled, if nothing else only to remember the crews that served on them.
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Although i prefer the system in use for naming ships here is an idea which might suit a lot of the intrested parties . The ship will be known by its pennent number but would have a tempory name in honour for 6 or 12 months of the year . Based on 30 year life span for a ship thats a lot names to please everyone , plenty of P R and media exposure and a happy Joe Public .
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Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
would hate to see a departure from the current unique tradition...we have so few that are genuinely our own. In this little democracy I vote for 'no change'. Rivers/counties/cities/ politicians...all done to death by other navies.
would hate to see a departure from the current unique tradition...we have so few that are genuinely our own. In this little democracy I vote for 'no change'. Rivers/counties/cities/ politicians...all done to death by other navies.
Marius has a point here, I think.
"We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
Illegitimi non carborundum
us ex sea hags have a tendencey to name our daughters after ships!!!!! My eldest daughter was called Aisling in a compromise as no way in hell would the wife let me call her Eithne. the Compromise was I had done my firts gunner shoot on Aisling where as I had served on Eithne for two years.
I 'd like to see the former ships names being recycled, if nothing else only to remember the crews that served on them.
I named my daughter Aisling reason why, I was serving on board her at the time. I thought it was a nice Irish Name. Cant say the Guns on LE Aisling Where nice, Always jamming!
would hate to see a departure from the current unique tradition...we have so few that are genuinely our own. In this little democracy I vote for 'no change'. Rivers/counties/cities/ politicians...all done to death by other navies.
Not all that unique,RN has used female classic names such as Phoebe,Hermione,Penelope etc.Always a risk of current system being hijacked by failing politicians to call units after wags etc,maybe a new format is now timely.
Not all that unique,RN has used female classic names such as Phoebe,Hermione,Penelope etc.Always a risk of current system being hijacked by failing politicians to call units after wags etc,maybe a new format is now timely.
I agree that the process needs to be kept away from politicians or the ships will be called after their wives/daughters. It has been tried in the past.
However I always felt that the RN for centuries were barking (sorry) up the wrong tree by calling their frigates after women in GREEK mythology. At least we didn't dip into another country's legends.
However I always felt that the RN for centuries were barking (sorry) up the wrong tree by calling their frigates after women in GREEK mytholog
Dunno, at least with the 'leanders' naming them after greek mythology had to be better than the type 22s calling them after you mother in law....HMS Battleaxe!!!!
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The RN, in times past, had so many ships that it had a dedicated naming committee, who took it very seriously, especialy when naming ships in large Classes, such as the Flower and Ton classes, familiar to us.
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I was of the opinion that "if it ain't broke, why fix it". Well it seems it is broke.
L.É. Aisling was part of the Volvo Ocean race recently, as guard ship. Foreign press were reporting it as "Le Ailing", with no idea that it was an Irish Warship.
The Irish names are fine for those of us used to the oddities of the Irish Language, however, in the foreign places our ships may frequent, consider the following.
I was of the opinion that "if it ain't broke, why fix it". Well it seems it is broke.
L.É. Aisling was part of the Volvo Ocean race recently, as guard ship. Foreign press were reporting it as "Le Ailing", with no idea that it was an Irish Warship.
The Irish names are fine for those of us used to the oddities of the Irish Language, however, in the foreign places our ships may frequent, consider the following.
At least most of the world know how to Pronounce James Joyces name..
Let us name our ships to please ourselves. The names are unique and the legends associated with them do impress foreigners. I wouldn't change my name just because foreigners couldn't pronounce it.
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