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Interesting that the Russians were also using Mig31 to escort the Bears during one excursion.
An old aircraft with an unmatched max altitude amongst similar aircraft. Often used to train cosmonauts at the edge of the earth's atmosphere.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by CTU View PostHere's todays track of the Russian day trippers.
12 MAR: Approximate routing of 2x RuAF Tu-160 pic.twitter.com/vDucTOw3om
— Mil Radar (@MIL_Radar) March 12, 2020
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostThe Tu-95 & Tu-142 Bears may be old but they have been modernized in the past few years. Also unlike fighters their flight hours/cycle life is not so short especially as the Russian never tried to use them in a low level role. We can easily expect each one to have a life of 30,000 hours (a 737 or A320 would be 3-4 times) and that the Russian never use them for more than 200 hours per year. I let you do the Maths on that one.
As for the Tu-160 Blackjacks these are a lot newer and just when they entered service the USSR collapsed so for many years they got little use and so should have plenty of hours still on the airframe. In fact they have recently re-started production of the Blackjack with the Tu-160M2. However spares and especially those for the engines remain critical and thus the amount of sorties per year will be severely limited.
What some might have missed is that the Russians have also been bussing the Yanks and Canukes also last week with aircraft flying from a base in easten Siberia (Ukrainka).
And I agree they have severe spares shortages and very limited capacity to manufacture new engines and parts.
Each sortie must chew up a significant amount of the years availability.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostIf you want a great place to hide an Russian attack submarine look no further than the waters between Donegal and Islay. This is the main route out of Faslane and the old Holy Loch bases for SSBN's. Why great, well the Brits littered the place with loads of German U-boats after the war, so plenty of big metallic objects on the bottom to mask any sub hiding there.
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Originally posted by Charlie252 View PostInterestingly the P-8 doesn't have a MAD boom, they have some other method to detect sub surface combatants.
However the Indians do not agree and they have added a CAE AN/ASQ-508A MAD as well as an aft radar, the Telephonics APS-143C(V)3 which some may know off the CN235/C295 MPA. Saab also offered the same MAD on the Swordfish and what was noticeable was that it was smaller and closer to the airframe than those we have seen on P3 aircraft or the like.
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Charlie 252 is spot on. Even the best Russian fighter engine is usually good for a max of 500 hrs between overhauls, far below Western standards. The Russian mentality about certification is different than Western practise and the West traditionally gives a lot more independence to its mechs and engineers to decide what is serviceable or not. They (russians) will defer an opinion up the chain of command and squadron engineering officers would be making decisions that would be taken by much lower ranks in the Western militaries. In saying that, in wartime, the rulebook goes out the window and they will bypass normal servicing and overhaul routines if they feel they have to.
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Originally posted by ropebag View PostI'd be hesitant in assuming that the sensors/processing on the Indian P-8's have the same capability on the US and selected other operators P-8's...
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostWell, India's primary (potential) enemy is Pakistan and they have form for sinking one Pak sub and shooting down at least two ASW aircraft so they take it very seriously, so I'd imagine their sensor kit is top drawer.
Turkey, a NATO country, was refused access to the top drawer PATRIOT system - what attitude do you think the US takes to its holiest of holy ASW systems in a country who's defence establishment has close ties to the Russians?
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostCharlie 252 is spot on. Even the best Russian fighter engine is usually good for a max of 500 hrs between overhauls, far below Western standards. The Russian mentality about certification is different than Western practise and the West traditionally gives a lot more independence to its mechs and engineers to decide what is serviceable or not. They (russians) will defer an opinion up the chain of command and squadron engineering officers would be making decisions that would be taken by much lower ranks in the Western militaries. In saying that, in wartime, the rulebook goes out the window and they will bypass normal servicing and overhaul routines if they feel they have to.
What we can be certain is that these flights and the others in the Pacific are important for Putin and will continue. They may not have the same frequency of the past week but we will see them from time to time.
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Originally posted by ropebag View PostDon't confuse what India will want with what the US will offer.
Turkey, a NATO country, was refused access to the top drawer PATRIOT system - what attitude do you think the US takes to its holiest of holy ASW systems in a country who's defence establishment has close ties to the Russians?
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