Originally posted by Graylion
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
EPV for naval service
Collapse
This is a sticky topic.
X
X
-
As ever ship design moves on and Navantia seem now to have combined a LPD and LSV into a single ship, their proposed Australian JSS.
http://https://www.navalnews.com/eve...t-ship-design/
Comment
-
Originally posted by EUFighter View PostThe P70's have three 630kW gennies, with a 300kW emergency gennie. Given that the hotel functions will still need to be powered (no big power hungry sensors) there maybe be 1MW avvailable.
Giving power ashore requires planning and a good High Voltage Shore Connection ,HVSC, system. Definitely with the growth of Hybrid or high capacity electric generation on ships, there is power available. Nowadays the reverse is also true that ships can shut down and connect to shore supply themselves. It does however raise cost and taxation charges for it's use. The type 31 will have 4 X 8000 kw , plus 4 X 900 kw available.
Comment
-
Thankfully we never got to the levels seen in the UK or the USA. Pretty sobering though, given what we were facing in March.
This type of role is something I'm sure was not considered when the ship was first being designed. Recovery of victims of a tragedy at sea or a natural disaster, maybe, but actual storage as a morgue? I doubt it.
I'm sure those tasked with replacing P31 are taking long and detailed notes.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
Comment
-
Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostThankfully we never got to the levels seen in the UK or the USA. Pretty sobering though, given what we were facing in March.
This type of role is something I'm sure was not considered when the ship was first being designed. Recovery of victims of a tragedy at sea or a natural disaster, maybe, but actual storage as a morgue? I doubt it.
I'm sure those tasked with replacing P31 are taking long and detailed notes.
What idiocy is next, vaccines delivered by 5.56 and some half-wit claiming that it's the DF delivering support to the HSE, and that future ammunition choices should take vaccine delivery into consideration?
- Likes 1
Comment
-
Originally posted by ropebag View PostTo be fair, this is ridiculous - does anyone actually believe that using a naval vessel, tied up,as a temporary morgue would be easier, cheaper and more efficient than hiring a couple of refrigerated shipping containers or lorries?
What idiocy is next, vaccines delivered by 5.56 and some half-wit claiming that it's the DF delivering support to the HSE, and that future ammunition choices should take vaccine delivery into consideration?
- Likes 1
Comment
-
Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostGiven the number of body bags that the Bons in Cork alone ordered, I'd say they would have been concerns even about space. I know from one of the undertakers that they ordered 500 bags at the start of the lockdown, I can only imagine what the major public hospitals in Cork were planning for.
A couple had room for 10,000 each - it was not time to be arseing about with room for three stiffs behind the frozen peas.
- Likes 1
Comment
-
Originally posted by ropebag View PostWe just hired/built massive refrigerated warehouses.
Not so
In my (UK) experience pandemic and associated planning at a central government level was in place in 1979 and before
Later as thoughts of building nuclear proof bunkers faded resources were identified and reserved by local authorities i.e. warehouse freezers - quite often their BAU purpose was associated with the meat trade
Comment
-
If they did end up dealing with that kind of mass casualty count, Ropebag is right - temporary mortuaries on board a Navy ship is not the way to go - you need somewhere with large Refrigerated storage space, easy access, and ideally, privacy.
What’s needed is somewhere like a sports stadium with temporary Marston mats to provide hard standing and all weather access, with refrigerator trucks and standby generators. Probably something that the state should prepare, with the DoD or Civil Defence keeping / using them.
Edit to add: Sorry, forgot this wasn’t the Covid threadLast edited by Flamingo; 25 June 2020, 21:44.'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
- Likes 1
Comment
-
Refrigerator trucks, not warehouses. (Edit ; I hadn’t seen Ropebags post)
And I’m sure the two ice-rinks in Dublin featured in somebody’s contingency plan.
Either way, the point stands that the flight deck of a ship is not something that should be considered, except as a very last resort. If refrigerator units have to be loaded onto it, just leave them dockside and mount a guard on them. Easier and better access, from every point of view.Last edited by Flamingo; 25 June 2020, 22:01.'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
- Likes 1
Comment
Comment