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  • #46
    I do n ot think that a home grown school project type UAV would be appropriate for the NS or DF for that matter. However many countries that do not have a technology tradition have developed capable UAV that have been used in combat. Sri Lanka is one as an example. I know the DF have spent a lot of money over the years educating officers in UCG and elsewhere. Many leave after their 9 years and do very well in the commercial world. We have a good research facilites in Ireland , a record of innovation in many areas it should be possible/ maybe even commercially desirable to develop a home grown UAV.
    I think at times that in the search for the perfect weapon/ system, carrying equipment, rifle , whatever we often tend to ignore thewell tried tested and just plain good

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    • #47
      Do you read threads, or do you just look at the heading and presume what the thread is about?


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • #48
        Have u read the previous threads?

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        • #49
          Royal Navy have a tender out for contracted shipborne UAV support. Contract is for 300 flight hours per month with a minimum spec of operations out to 40nm and 8hrs endurance. Primary sensor is to be EO/IR. It will be interesting to see what they go for.

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          • #50
            from across the pond.

            Fire Scout surpasses flight hour record aboard USS Samuel B. Roberts
            Helicopter Strike Maritime Squadron (HSM) 46, Det. 9 recently surpassed the MQ-8B Fire Scout’s previous monthly flight hour record while performing operations at sea aboard USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG 58).

            In June, four Fire Scouts that embarked on the frigate flew 333 flight hours, exceeding the unmanned helicopter’s previously monthly operational flight time record by more than 110 hours.

            While at sea, the Fire Scouts regularly fly 18 hours per day while providing a 12-hour real-time intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) orbit to combatant commanders.

            “The teams from USS Samuel B. Roberts and HSM-46 have built on the great success of earlier deployed operators,” said Capt. Patrick Smith, Fire Scout program manager. “Their perseverance and mission effectiveness have demonstrated the real difference that maritime-based ISR can make to combatant commanders.”

            This is the Fire Scout’s sixth underway deployment aboard a U.S. Navy frigate. Just like earlier deployments, the ship receives communication upgrades that allow the aircraft’s Full Motion Video (FMV) camera feed to be distributed to the ship’s Combat Information Center (CIC) and to commanders at military installations throughout the world.

            "None of these achievements would be possible without the hard work and efforts by the entire team aboard USS Samuel B Roberts,” said Lt. Cmdr. Mike Gerhart, HSM-46, Det. 9 officer in charge. “We are just two months into our six-month deployment, but the operators and maintainers have put in significant hours supporting the needs of the warfare commanders. They can be justly proud of setting a new standard for embarked operations of the Fire Scout.”
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            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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            • #51
              You would need a flight deck of Eithne's proportions for something like the Firescout. 8.4m rotor diamater.

              Something like the Schiebel Camcopter is a more likely bet.

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              • #52
                Canterbury Coastguard UAV.


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Jetjock View Post
                  You would need a flight deck of Eithne's proportions for something like the Firescout. 8.4m rotor diamater.

                  Something like the Schiebel Camcopter is a more likely bet.
                  On another thread we were looking at using daughter craft for extended in shore/harbour patrols from a mother vessel ie OPV. UAV's are a popular operational/ observational tool. There are now current trials using a standard 6m Rhib fitted as a microlight with a flying speed of 45/48knots. Polaris FIB of Italy is one in production. I think calm seas are required for take off and landing.

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                  • #54
                    Are there any futher developments in getting UAV for the navy?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by 25 pounder View Post
                      Are there any futher developments in getting UAV for the navy?
                      There is a company developing UAVs who intend testing them from Irish Naval vessels. This is ongoing.
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                      • #56
                        Awful waste any amount of foreign companies manufacturing uav's now to a better standard, just purchase of the shelf!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Spark23 View Post
                          Awful waste any amount of foreign companies manufacturing uav's now to a better standard, just purchase of the shelf!
                          Absolutely, it's foolishness to be dependent on this as the only UAV option for the NS, especially when the company involved has zero design pedigree with experience extending only to short range quadcopter aerial cameras and minor regulatory and licencing interactions.

                          We are 40 years behind the rest of the world on over the horizon UAV experience. Major aerospace companies are involved in their development. Experience is not acquired overnight. Naval launch and recovery further complicates the design process .

                          Forget pie in the sky(pun intended) and buy off the shelf or we can forget naval UAV ops for the foreseeable future. Boeing Scaneagle is an ideal candidate.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Spark23 View Post
                            Awful waste any amount of foreign companies manufacturing uav's now to a better standard, just purchase of the shelf!
                            Nothing that Irish industry and innovation can't improve on?

                            Really?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Orion View Post
                              Nothing that Irish industry and innovation can't improve on?

                              Really?
                              Given sufficient time, there undoubtedly is. Start with something realistic though, maybe by developing a man portable Orbiter type UAV for the Artillery corps.

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                              • #60
                                Aim low ... yeah yeah yeah

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